Is the RTX 3080 too much for POE?

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SneakySanta wrote:

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Dragoon_Diver wrote:

yeah most people can't even understand how engines work
they need to make the game from scratch to put the game inside another

and the main problem with the actual engine is memory bandwidth limitations, you can't see this problem when going through the acts 1 to 10 but when you push the mob quantity on maps and put some instantaneous spawning like delirium the engine struggles to send everything in time to cpu and ram thus creating stuttering and fps dips

and GGG always tries to push the limits with new mechanics and even greater complex graphics...we always feel like the game weird because the optimizations can't keep up with those additions

we should have some way to benchmark the game but it is hard with RNG going on

And you cant understand that this engine, that we use is brutally old and unoptimised and a time will come when EVEN RTX 5080 WONT be enough to run it properly without fps drops to 20..

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ALSO.. I CAN MAKE U A WHOLE SILENT HILL REMAKE IN UNREAL 4 ENGINE IN LESS THAN 6 MONTHS ALONE ..

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YES BUILDING FROM SCRATCH IS SUPER HARD BECAUSE I WORK IN 3DSMAX FOR 6 YEARS NOW.

IM TALKING ABOUT USING UNREAL ENGINE. BUILDING THERE is mega fast [Removed by Support]

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does engines only handle graphics mr. 3dsmax? [Removed by Support]

what about borderlands 3 that uses UE but it is a fucking mess? almost 120GB of shitty bugs that they can't fix everything after 1 year on pc release
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to sum it up,
if making games was so easy, we would have blockbuster selling games in all genres every year. but the reality is that the industry is riddled with bugged money-grub games that are abandoned every year, the reality is that the game industry doesn't work how you described it should.

sorry Lisa, just replied to defend myself but i didn't take it personally
but certain people just can't handle facts

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Aynix wrote:

Yeah and thats why Diablo 3 uses Unreal Engine. Oh wait, it doesnt. Because Unreal Engine would never work for games like PoE/Diablo.
But you clearly know that mr "I can make game from scratch in 6 months".

Raading lines which only suits you or just blatantly making them up..
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The game industry DOESNT USE UNREAL ENGINE FOR 1 REASON ALONE.

IT TAKES 5% OF their profit.

All the rest they tell you is a dust in your sheep eyes and as i can see here u are all falling for it..

Unreal engine is the best engine there is performance/resourse wise.

Compared to it the GGG engine is like comparing LADA vs LExus..

The latest Unreal 5 engine will dominate everything on this earth for decade..

The only close engine which also is good and optimised is the engine used in Doom .

Remaking Path of Exile in unreal 4 engine shouldnt take more than 2-3 months ( includng the beta tests..)

Any real developer can confirm that.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rmtX37byTo - WoW remade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_rtawWdxwk - Tomb Raider classic remade

Watch the WoW remade video and see for yourself what would happen to your favourite games if remade in Unreal..

Wtih such powerfull hardware like 2080 and 16 core processors fps drops to 20-30 in multy game is ABSURD. I have a such a pc and last night had fps drops to 24 in full game.. i had to turn down effects to get low 1% of 40 min.. That was ridiculous..

My minimum fps in Battlefield5( Ultra settings) was 113... compared to 24 here..

GREAT ENGINE AYNIX.. GG.

My point here wasn't to shame anyone. It is to show you ,that the game could run TIMES faster with a new engine. It's just GGG have to sacrifice some cash for it.



One last thing . I would much rather donate to a game where i play comfortably with 100 fps instead grabing my hair in anger when i die from 24 fps stutter due 100bln unoptimised effects.

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SneakySanta wrote:

Watch the WoW remade video and see for yourself what would happen to your favourite games if remade in Unreal..

I know eactly what would happen. From well polished game they would turn into barely playable bugged mess.

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Aynix wrote:

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SneakySanta wrote:

Watch the WoW remade video and see for yourself what would happen to your favourite games if remade in Unreal..

I know eactly what would happen. From well polished game they would turn into barely playable bugged mess.

you have the buggy mess right now.

24fps in multy game on 3000$ pc..

Case closed.

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/custom-license

for a game with the scale of PoE, it is obviously not 5%

the advantages of a proprietary engine outshines so much when you need to patch and fix bugs because you are not seeing a black box over the sandbox tool

take another example: Warframe
the game is very stunning visually (better than UE 3.0 in some areas) but it takes a toll on the devteam for the almost same business model GGG adopts even with a proprietary engine. i doubt the game would be viable economically if they licensed UE and they should know, since they worked closely with Epic when developed unreal tornament in the past

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Dragoon_Diver wrote:

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/custom-license

for a game with the scale of PoE, it is obviously not 5%

the advantages of a proprietary engine outshines so much when you need to patch and fix bugs because you are not seeing a black box over the sandbox tool

take another example: Warframe
the game is very stunning visually (better than UE 3.0 in some areas) but it takes a toll on the devteam for the almost same business model GGG adopts even with a proprietary engine. i doubt the game would be viable economically if they licensed UE and they should know, since they worked closely with Epic when developed unreal tornament in the past

You , as everyone else are forgetting 1 massive fact.

The Customer. Many people are willing to donate for a game with higher fps and better graphics ,than for 20fps stutter mess.

Think about it. Hence the world wide saying: His majesty the customer.

Who is gonna donate more? A pissed off customer or a happy one.

I for instance dont like at all the low fps im getting in a hack and slash simple game.. Not even to mention that Battlefield 5 prolly has 10 times more poligons per level than Poe..

Want to see how amazing Unreal Engine is? Go check ARK Survival Evolved. Its made on Unreal Engine. PoE optimization is amazing in comparison to that thing.

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Aynix wrote:

Want to see how amazing Unreal Engine is? Go check ARK Survival Evolved. Its made on Unreal Engine. PoE optimization is amazing in comparison to that thing.

yeah i know 100 games made in unreal and i play them with 200 fps..

How about that..