WTF is going on with map sustain this league?

I have 0 problems with map sustain, never traded for a single map, almost at 7 awakener bonus but this is only because I did not strategically farm zones for relevant conqueror spawn. The only map tier I cannot reliably run all the time is tier 16 which I don't particularly mind. In reality tier 15 is all you need because at this tier you can get both shaper and elder maps for fragments from Zana missions (you can get them as drops at tier 14).

So I run tier 14 for faster conqueror spawn, tier 15 for zana and tier 16 for niko.

My map sustain has never been better.

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Icholas wrote:

My map sustain has never been better.

I'm only up to t11-t12 maps, but I don't seem to be having an issue either. I have roughly 15 red tier maps just chilling in my stash. I certainly receive more maps than I use. The only concern is getting the correct maps for completion.

How to enjoy this stupid game when the maps are not even dropping.

I found out that when doing 2nd to 4th awakening, the maps are the real problems here.

It is because many players are unable to win the conquaror so they are trying again and again. Or if they die, they lose tons of maps repeatedly and are unable to progress fast enough to gain the exp.

Plus the droprates are simply too horrible to afford buying maps.

For those that push all the way to 5th Awakening Level and is already on red maps, they shouldn't have much problem.

It is the players that are in the below 5th awakening that is having alot of problems. Especially new players.

I know the developers dont play their own games or are too pro, but pls do something about the system. You don't make a half-baked atlas and hope that everyone knows what to do.

It seems that something is going in reverse: the more awakening bonus I unlock, the more often I seem to get maps one tier LOWER.

I guess its variable like all RNG in this game but I have to say my experience is extremely negative. I have run the last 6 leagues and in each one have had a huge map excess at every tier. My progress through the Atlas has only been hindered by my ability to defeat the content. I have always waited until late game (tier 14 and above) to start to juice my maps without any sustain issue.

This league I have had to start using chisels/sextants/fragments/scarabs from early yellow maps. I have bought almost all Zana maps, run my master missions, advanced the garden to lvl 4 seeds etc.

I am now in a position where I'm back on yellow maps as I've used all my reds and have just run 20 tier 10's and had 1 tier 11 drop and a few white maps. I need t14's to access the conquerors now and am looking at having to buy a heap of maps to continue which I dont find fun at all.

I'm a great supporter of this game and have many thousand of hours invested but this is making me feel like quitting this league. I can buy maps, if i was in SSF i would quit.

GGG this game should not be about having to be lucky to be able to progress. I'm not talking about the luck in finding orbs or good gear as bad luck in that space does not effectively lock you out of content in the way poor map drop rates do. If you are going to err in map drop rates it should be on the side of excess rather than less.

I usually dont have issues with my maps but this league its been rough. I bought 30c worth of t14s (i had 0 to start and thats where my conqs are) chisel'd and sextant to get as least 90%iiq with zana/alva missions.
0 map drops.

Spawned 2 conqs completed those maps, 0 map drops.

I now have 2 conqs to go for my first sirius I have 9 chaos and my highest tier map is 10. Feelsbadthisleague

I skip this league and only play in Standard. Also think there is issue with drop of red map. Most unexpected one is when I complete Zana daily, she didn't sell a single red map.

Or maybe not a bug, just some unnoticed changes?

I'm not going to really comment on the map drops because I'm only at like 131 bonus and 20 awakener bonus. The sustain isn't great right now for 14+ but if you don't have A8 and at least 140/140 it's probably not worth complaining about. If you have that and you still are not sustaining, then you can complain I guess.

Map drops being random at all is why we get this problem. Some people are saying it's fine and some people are saying it's not. What that means is that some people got a normal ARPG experience where they can continually do content at the right level for their characters, and some people got screwed and are playing a terrible game that continually forces you to do low level content that the game has mechanics to discourage you from doing. The entire map system is broken and needs a ground up rework to not be random, and not involve trading for content.