Harvest could be worst league ever?

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Hyskoa wrote:

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WTFSpeeder wrote:

If you really think Harvest is worse than:

Essence
Perandus
Synthesis


then you must really be dumb

I LOVED Perandus. Absolutely loved that league. Essence was good fun too. Had my first high grade ES armour in that league.
Synthesis was a garbage fire, but looking back at it, it's still not as bad and boring as harvest currently is.

Exactly lmao

Hi fellow exiles

My few points, and some suggestion how to fix (or no) -constructive feedback:

1. Why Garden waypoint is on rock and have one sided way to enter it? It add unnesesary travel time and its frustrating to go around.
-FIX - make it flat here. Rock on center? remove it, its just do nothing.
-FIX2 - let me move waypoint, Oshabi, stock like in my hideout.
-FIX3 - let me import/export setting for garden - meybe some people dont like copy/paste from spreadsheets. Reset garden button.
-FIX4 - let me remove walls, stairs, and obstacles. I know its minigame but no sane person grow monsters in cramped space.
-FIX5 - make button "RELASE KRAKEN" to relase all monster in one click from all grows


2. Why there is fog of war on minimap in garden? Its my garden and i need to run around to check my grows.
-FIX - show full garden or some stats meybe when i enter my garden. (sidebar or something).


3. Why garden is so dark? Ground and pylons have similar colors, Blue and Violet things are similar color; Full grow garden make realy hard to see what is going here. Build with minions dont see what grow on ground...
-FIX - make a day here, separate colors better. (RGB like gems its good start)


4.When im on map i kill stuff, when i want craft i go hideout or menagerie. I dont enjoy pausing my gameplay to put some seeds here and there. Its map/zana/oshabi-cepcja.
-FIX (im not sure about this)-Grow monsters on maps, after kill drop seeds (for every party members). Garden only from hideout?


5.Garden feel like work:
-I need to put seeds to get higher levels. If i don`t do it, i don`t get higher tiers of seeds.
-If i grow higher tiers when i don`t have anything to craft prepared, i waste life-source for nothing.


6. Crafts and seeds its lot of reading. I realy like simple ideas like alchemy orb or transmute - simple icon, click, craft - now is wall of text, with similar multiple resoults, no color coding. Feel like buying best shampoo reading labels from 20 to pick from.
-FIX - color coding and icons for crafts, visual examples on sidebar like in tutorials.


7.What with party play? Everyone have own gardens, take own seeds, no reason to teams. Maps are empty, same as standard now. Everyone grow own bosses in own gardens.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2859246/page/5#p23230339

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yamface wrote:

hello did someone just say craft league?

My god I'm so awesome at predicting. brb ima go stroke my own dick

i started in prophecy and even that was better as far as i can remember. this is def the worst league for me.

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yamface wrote:

My god I'm so awesome at predicting.

It was a good call.

There may be differences...

In one of those leagues, you had a big grid and you put things down and connected them using a strict system.

One of those was supposed to be the "next superior method" of crafting.

One of those, you couldn't save any learnt crafts to duplicate them later, like you can with the good old reliable (and not broken, so why fix it) bench.


Oh wait, why do I keep saying "one of those" lol

Yes, all those lessons from Synthesis were well absorbed, so much so it was reinvented, reincarnated and thrust upon us again. Whoever came up with and loves this Synthesis idea must really have a loud voice at the "ideas table". Either that or they buy the doughnuts 4 days out of 5 for the entire office.

Oh well, I expect we'll get 2 more "normal" leagues after this mess; and then we'll be subjected to "Synthesis 3 - Rubic's Cube Strikes Back". haha

There's nothing to farm this league..everything is super saturated already.

Kinda ironic.

You got 20+ previous league to farm at your own pace, no rush, infinite chaos/alch from seeds and insane targetted exalt/annul to craft decent gear in no time, 10x easier than the weird Synthesis way.

I don't see any issue, for a league made to test something new, and during the Covid time, with people going to summer holiday anyway, its pretty nice.

They have to take some time to prepare for a PoE2 with less loot pinata and clutter, one step after another.

Y

Definitely going to be one of the worst leagues in my books too. (Probably worst). I even enjoyed Synthesis more than this garden farming.

There is literally no map interaction with harvest mechanic other than picking up a couple of seeds. (Which is not necessarily bad)

So we've picked up some seeds, built a farm that allows 'some' format or way to focus craft kind of sort of way, initially I had some fun with it, but after going through 50+ maps, I realized how little T2 seeds are produced from T1 farms. It's funny that people have gone viral on creating those super farm guides/layout when you will never get enough seeds to utilize it all (unless you don't plant and interact with garden for over 10+ maps row, which is not ideal because cycles are shorter). There's is no need for strategically well-built farms, because not enough seeds drop.
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To crafting itself, now I'm not a new PoE player, but I also don't consider myself extremely experienced or veteran neither, but I have a decent idea what is what, I had to google up "attack modifiers", "defense modifiers" you get the idea if you are new to PoE, can't imagine this to be one of the worst league to start off. Not to mention, this interaction with gardening even once per 4-6-8 maps is so tedious, so yeah, I've gotten to spam around 50/100 or so Alc/Chaos and couple free annuals perhaps 1/2 exalts on an item, I don't feel like it's rewarding for amount of interaction it requires on top of that very steep knowledge of all the modifiers which are not even properly brought up in PoE wiki, if this is what we are looking to get in PoE 2 or even close to, I'll rather to RL garden!

I like PoE because I like to grind by killing mobs and occasionally craft 'league' specific items, not spend 60% of my time learning about crafting mechanics that game cannot properly explain itself so I have to go and google it and it doesn't even specify them in wiki even.

Yes, I totally understand this is the greatest league for all the try-hard (and not so try-hard) SSF players who enjoy the misery and suffer and have 10h+ per day to play this game. I don't think I would play PoE without trading system myself, there are better single-player games out there!
-- Btw even if you can get seriously good gear, what would you do with it that you haven't done yet?
-- I also think Cluster Jewels added MUCH greater power creep into the game then ability to craft couple really good items that WILL not give you not even close the power that cluster jewels did. (it's virtually impossible to craft good jewel now)

Honestly, after spending quite a many hours into the early league I see myself quitting this league in a week tops (even Synthesis lasted 2 weeks), I'm already bored of it, it's kind of sad though because I really enjoy the build I'm playing, but the content is not interesting.
Loot explosions were so much better than this tedious brainstorm gardening.

I was enjoying this league at the start, but the harvest part is getting a bit long in the tooth.

I still enjoy fresh starts every so often.

This league might end up rivaling synthesis, for tedious mechanic.
Only played since 3.6

Good;
Metamorph
Legion

Okay:
Blight
Delerium

Shit;
Synthesis
Potentially Harvest.