Wow... a /reddit comment with wisdom rather than toxic hate... That's like, God Tier unique!

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trixxar wrote:

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jackof8lades wrote:

But the reward structure is balanced more and more around casual players tho, hence more experienced players get insane ammounts of loot these days, to a point it's just stupid.
And besides deep delving there is no endgame designed around the 1% either, power creep has gotten so completely out of hand you really don't need to be some uber elite 0,001% to do endgame.

I thought less than 5% had ever done uber elder, which is why I was saying 5 vs 95%. Could be wrong but I remember that from before the atlas changes.

I would guess significantly less than 2% have done AL8 Sirus

Ppl over overestimate bosses in this game and are afraid of failing, so instead of doing them and getting better at them they just sell them or the fragments needed to get to them.

well to be fair... back in prohecy days game was differnt ( i made in that league 40/40) even a good build couldnt farm like multiple ex...

and pdps with like 250pdps were good because mirror tier were only ~400pdps compare to now 600-900pdps... the game jsut changed over the years...



only point i agree is a casual need alot longer for everything compared to streamers, but that its obv since casual plays 0-2h a day while most streamer play 40-60h the first 3 days and then 8h+a day

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jackof8lades wrote:

And the point is?

^^^^^

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jackof8lades wrote:

And the point is?

he's obviously one of em and likes it to become the new d3 lel

Its all about time investment and game knowledge. Game hasnt become "easier" in the sense that we have become alot more powerful early game. Its just that more players have experience with the game mechanics and with the added tutorials is more accessible than before. Someone finishing the story is likely to continue playing in maps.

Because rng is the main gate keeper, there is still content in old leagues I havent seen. Another form of gate keeper could be better but I dont know what is.

Some optional content and alternate endgames (like league specific boss fights and delve) should be tough and only for the 5%. What many would consider main/base content should be more accessible and less gated behind rng and time investment, that includes acts, lab and atlas. Thats how I see it.

Somehow i miss point of this post...

These challenges are just for fun and to increase reason to do them, game just offer some fancy fashion desing to your characters...

About how is impossible/possible do that if you aren't one of hardcore players...

If there isn't challenge which say "do it solo", can't you just run it with some group or your freind, clan ?? Hell normal thing is that Clan member help each other to farm/grind items or sell them for much better price, if you don't use trade or you haven't income..

Half of these challanges can be completed pretty much easily..

Endgame got higher diff and sometimes get nerf, because endgame is for exp players, ofc it won't be so easily get there or "finish game"... That would lose point of ARPG...

Nobody said you have to give hours and hours to game, there are different ways how to "lvl up" your char

90% of the players quit at act 1...good job for making act1 even harder now. Thanks GGG.

Whats different from normal life ?

You are being sold perfect body rich intelligent perfect life people thru commercial and instagram all day
The rich are here so the poor can dream.

Same thing in PoE
what "sells" or attract viewers is showing the dream.
Elites exists so the casual can dream.

and dreaming sells.

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dachoppa wrote:

*shrug* seems like everything is labeled as 'hate' these days

Because it is. There is way too much hate going on. Look at every single league announcement. People spew their irrational hate for the game before they even know any details about a given league.

And casuals are clearly hated as well. I mean, do you even forum ? "Casual" is clearly meant derogatory for some reason.

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dyneol wrote:

And casuals are clearly hated as well. I mean, do you even forum ? "Casual" is clearly meant derogatory for some reason.

Maybe some people are using it as an insult, but far from the majority.

But it goes both ways. I understand perfectly well that some hardcore players react when casual players (or other hardcore players) advocate for an "easier" game that requires less investment. A lot of people are here because of the required investment, the depth, the complexity and the difficulty.

Anyhow, hardcore players need to respect that casual players don't have the time to do everything and that time is a way bigger hurdle in PoE than skill is, and casual players need to respect that this game NEEDS to offer challenges to the hardcore player base too, making that content unobtainable for (some) casual players.

Anyhow, "casual" is subjective. I view myself as a casual player, with a family and a full-time job.