Changes to the Atlas of Worlds in Path of Exile: Delirium

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The way you keep resetting the Atlas and wrecking my builds and invalidating all my work every league is absolutely horrendous.

I hate your leagues, and the idea of grinding for now reason just to reset everything every 3 months. I only play Standard, I would never play leagues, I find leagues insulting. Not only because you keep deleting people's work, but you also bring new mechanics only in leagues, which is elitist and scummy. I absolutely absolutely ab so lu te ly hate how you're destroying the game because of these leagues and the way you port content to Standard. It's like playing an endless early access game where save files can be wiped out no remorse.

I'm sure it's not programming failure on your part, but rather design failure. Judging by the scummy mechanics you keep shoving, like the mind tricks in the Lab, or the very idea of building a game around a marketplace that doesn't exist.

OK, the marketplace. You started me. So you force players to buy instead of find, or craft. Because of infinitely slow grind and insane RNG. It's like one of those horrorshow F2P games.. Oh wait, it is a F2P game! A game where getting items [that affect gameplay!], needs to go thru 14 y.o. jerks from Hell, who are not willing to trade. Trading in PoE is the single worst feature of any game I've ever played.

Is PoE 2 going to be exactly the same endless early access Hell, and no automated marketplace?




You sound like you fundamentally disagree with their core philosophy. Their core values will not change (well, they can, but it's very rare). You either have to adapt as a player, or use your time on another game and have fun.

It's all about having fun at the end of the day.
"Path of Exile's engine is currently modern, lean and fast." - Chris Wilson, September 19th, 2019

"It looks like we broke something with 3.10.0. We don't know what it is yet." - Bex, March 16th, 2020
Last edited by girng on Mar 3, 2020, 8:56:09 AM
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Clownturds wrote:

Oh look, an elitist schmuck that can't even break 40 challenges talking trash to casual players.

Swear to Carl Sagan, you are the folks I hate most in this game.


lold4r. That 40 lends weight. Excellent usage.

Also, ever notice how GGG encourages people to conflate poe with a job? That explains all these people that sound like fox news talking about socialism.

See my sig.
GGG makes it so the game feels like a job instead of a hobby so that it can profit from all the social training everyone gets to work harder and self-exploit. - I could use some like minded people in my guild. - I don't see reply notifications.
Last edited by Innomen on Mar 3, 2020, 9:32:05 AM
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whengreg wrote:
I'm not seeing anything in here that reduces the pressure to run T14-T16 maps. My biggest issue with the endgame right now is that it pushes everyone into running the most dangerous content available, even if they're not comfortable with that, and the Delirium mechanic isn't going to help with that. I think this is at the root of many of the one-hit kill complaints, where people are being pushed by the mechanics into running T14-T16 before getting the gear to be able to do that safely. The change to awakening levels to be number of watchstones/4 is going to mean that there's no good way to run yellow maps with an awakening level of 0.

I'm also unsure why I would ever complete Awakening Bonus Objectives on purpose; increasing the effect of modifiers seems like a good way to make the endgame more deadly without any way to back off if you realize you've gone too far.


This exactly. The problem is experience scaling and trade.

I am absolutely forced to run content near my level, as economically I need high ilvl for lewtperhour and developmentally being lvl 85 makes being anywhere outside t16 a literal waste of time.

It's the slot machine approach. I have to be in the hardest content to keep up with required pulls per second.

The ONLY league where this wasn't the case was betrayal because I could assemble and then cash out syndicate configurations and I was GUARANTEED reward per hour from it via scarabs and research upgrades.
GGG makes it so the game feels like a job instead of a hobby so that it can profit from all the social training everyone gets to work harder and self-exploit. - I could use some like minded people in my guild. - I don't see reply notifications.
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Redthorne82 wrote:
If you want to make the game harder for the no-lifers, ADD content that does this, but altering the base content to push a majority of the more casual players away is ALWAYS a bad business decision.


As a no lifer (disabled and addicted) I completely agree. It's like when they made getting lvl 100 harder. Their changes had zero impact below 90, just do stuff like that.

I already can't do the majority of endgame things. This is the one league in 7 years where I actually killed the current boss of the game during league.

I still played constantly and spent money. But I would have felt a lot better about it if it wasn't so punishing being outside fully juiced maps and one shot bosses.

Seriously deeply tired of one shit mechanics. There needs to be a final damage cap on monster output to prevent one shots or burst kills. It's griefy not exciting.

I haven't felt a poe death was earned and fair in ages. I'm always feeling cheated and regardless of cause that's their failure since managing player feelings is the ENTIRE POINT of gaming.

We pay to feel good. When it doesn't feel good, they've failed.
GGG makes it so the game feels like a job instead of a hobby so that it can profit from all the social training everyone gets to work harder and self-exploit. - I could use some like minded people in my guild. - I don't see reply notifications.
This is a little disappointing. Don't see the reason for completely removing drop tier bonus. at least reduce it but keep the only actually good incentive.

Also I mostly play standard, and I am fine if my progress is reset but I can achieve completion with old maps, but if my watchstones get reset then I will be very upset. Please GGG do not make the mistake of removing our watchstones.
My two cents on map sustain:

Map sustain has been possible in every league before this one. Thus the removal of that bonus gets us no worse than it's always been prior. But what I haven't seen mentioned (haven't read all 48 pages of this thread) is the effect of the Delirium league mechanic. Metamorph added a single boss that didn't really drop that many tier 14+ maps. Delirium is going to add insane numbers of mobs to all maps if you engage with it.

Obviously it's all speculation until the league starts, but I wouldn't be surprised if the monster count per map is so high in 3.10 that map sustain doesn't take a hit at all compared to 3.9 (and certainly will be higher than any pre-3.8 league).
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Innomen wrote:


Seriously deeply tired of one shit mechanics. There needs to be a final damage cap on monster output to prevent one shots or burst kills. It's griefy not exciting.

I haven't felt a poe death was earned and fair in ages. I'm always feeling cheated and regardless of cause that's their failure since managing player feelings is the ENTIRE POINT of gaming.

We pay to feel good. When it doesn't feel good, they've failed.


+1
Здравствуйте, меня зовут Кеша и я лицемер, плохой человек, меня здесь недолюбливают, и еще я очень старый и у меня нереальных высот ЧСВ.
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Baloosh wrote:
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3XE wrote:
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Baloosh wrote:
Lol - did any of you guys actually expect anything different from TenCent?

If you legit did expect something different, you have a lot to learn.

Increasing the grind keeps people playing, and keeps that $$$ flowing in (extra tabs, character slots, MTXs, etc).

Every time TenCent increases the grinding requirement, they make more money. That will hold true until people completely stop giving them any money whatsoever, for an extended period of time.

Which of course will never happen, so expect more grind, expect more chase, expect more bugs, expect more complexity and superficial layers of "difficulty" ad infinitum.

PoE 2 will be even worse. So if you hate the direction of the game, plan on hating it for a LONG time.

Otherwise, play it and have fun where you can.


Thanks mate, I rarely visit the forums but when I do, reading posts like yours always bring a smile on my face. :)

It's 2020, you have access to all the information, educational channels, you can literally become a genius in a couple of years if you really try.

And then comes people like you with their "opinions" that literally make no sense.

Ohh boy, don't stop being you! I am always a fan of free comedy. :)


Much love, my man. I aims to please! ;)

Glad I could help bring a smile to your face. One day, long into the future, you'll look back and realize, "Man that Baloosh dude really did know the future, and it was even entertaining to boot!"

Always room for one more in the fam, fam. :hi-five:


Nah..

A week into the future I won't even remember anymore

Irrelevant
Insubstantial
Insignificant
Øvè®þðwé® Øvê®®ûn Øvè®çðmé
Last edited by 3XE on Mar 3, 2020, 2:36:31 PM
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3XE wrote:


Nah..

A week into the future I won't even remember anymore

Irrelevant
Insubstantial
Insignificant


Oh, you'll remember. In those deep, dark places you don't like to talk about, that's where my memory will be. You can just consider me your Synthesis bro. Always there... always in a distant memory.

;)
Do you update your game based on player satisfaction instead of making more net profit?

Be a lot cooler if you did.

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