General Discussion - Wolcen overtook POE as the new number 1 arpg game on Steam (127k concurrent players at the moment) - Forum

" Shagsbeard wrote: The "vast majority" of players don't spend time on the forums. They don't post on reddit. They play the game. You get a really biased view as to what constitutes a player by hanging out in game forums. Some players apparently get more enjoyment coming to the forum of another game to act insufferably smug to the players of that forum's game, than from playing their own "hot, new thing." Not enough to say how great (game XYZ) is; they have to rag on folks about how their game is "ded." =9[.]9= =^[.]^= basic (happy/amused) cheetahmoticon: Whiskers/eye/tear-streak/nose/tear-streak/eye/ whiskers =@[.]@= boggled / =>[.]<= annoyed or angry / ='[.]'= concerned / =0[.]o= confuzzled / =-[.]-= sad or sleepy / =[.]= dazzled / =^[.]~= wink / =~[.]^= naughty wink / =9[.]9= rolleyes #FourYearLie	Posted by Raycheetah#7060 on Mar 4, 2020, 2:08:56 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
" girng wrote: " CAPSLOCK_ON wrote: chris said the vast majority of players play through steam so at this point in time there's probably less than 10k players paying through the standalone client Source? (just curious) I ll give you a hint. It located slightly below his lower back. Me	Posted by Deathfairy#1490 on Mar 4, 2020, 2:21:50 PM Quote this Post
" Deathfairy wrote: " girng wrote: " CAPSLOCK_ON wrote: chris said the vast majority of players play through steam so at this point in time there's probably less than 10k players paying through the standalone client Source? (just curious) I ll give you a hint. It located slightly below his lower back. Me LOL "Path of Exile's engine is currently modern, lean and fast." - Chris Wilson, September 19th, 2019 "It looks like we broke something with 3.10.0. We don't know what it is yet." - Bex, March 16th, 2020	Posted by girng#7675 on Mar 4, 2020, 4:38:42 PM Quote this Post
" girng wrote: " CAPSLOCK_ON wrote: chris said the vast majority of players play through steam so at this point in time there's probably less than 10k players paying through the standalone client Source? (just curious) i don't have a link but i remember seeing a reddit post that showed PoE numbers and the vast majority of players played through steam Last edited by CAPSLOCK_ON#7907 on Mar 4, 2020, 5:44:30 PM	Posted by CAPSLOCK_ON#7907 on Mar 4, 2020, 5:43:32 PM On Probation Quote this Post
Last I heard, I believe yesterday when Datmodz checked their twitter, Wolcen devs had been silent for almost a week. And while I hate judging and entire game based solely on twitch views, as of writing Wolcen is at 2k viewers, a brand new arpg, while the end of league usually dead PoE is at 2.5k. Wolcen, in my opinion, was a flash in the pan. Everyone's hungry for more ARPG competition, but they not only didn't deliver, they shot themselves in the foot with their way-too-early launch. Letting the GAINT oversights throughout the game linger for so long REALLY hurt the perception of the game. I'm talking about things such as the typo'd block node, or the non-QA tested rune for BE that gave the skill THOUSANDS of % more damage for little investment. Things like this meant that it was far too easy to reach the absolute end game, and destroy it without hardly any effort. They let players reach 100% block chance and efficiency, so players became immune to nearly all damage. They let gold and item duping remain for what, two weeks nearly? Hell I still hear there's other ways to dupe. Then of course their item balance is just so far off. Uniques are actually useless, except maybe the Trial belt but only because you can cheese it and have it also apply the runes, even if you take the skill off your bar. There's so much left to even 'fix' to make it feel like an actual full release it's sad. I want there to be competition, but this was most definitely a twitch reflex release that felt like a just-out-of-alpha demo.	Posted by Bleu42#4018 on Mar 4, 2020, 6:08:39 PM Quote this Post
" Bleu42 wrote: Last I heard, I believe yesterday when Datmodz checked their twitter, Wolcen devs had been silent for almost a week. And while I hate judging and entire game based solely on twitch views, as of writing Wolcen is at 2k viewers, a brand new arpg, while the end of league usually dead PoE is at 2.5k. Wolcen, in my opinion, was a flash in the pan. Everyone's hungry for more ARPG competition, but they not only didn't deliver, they shot themselves in the foot with their way-too-early launch. Letting the GAINT oversights throughout the game linger for so long REALLY hurt the perception of the game. I'm talking about things such as the typo'd block node, or the non-QA tested rune for BE that gave the skill THOUSANDS of % more damage for little investment. Things like this meant that it was far too easy to reach the absolute end game, and destroy it without hardly any effort. They let players reach 100% block chance and efficiency, so players became immune to nearly all damage. They let gold and item duping remain for what, two weeks nearly? Hell I still hear there's other ways to dupe. Then of course their item balance is just so far off. Uniques are actually useless, except maybe the Trial belt but only because you can cheese it and have it also apply the runes, even if you take the skill off your bar. There's so much left to even 'fix' to make it feel like an actual full release it's sad. I want there to be competition, but this was most definitely a twitch reflex release that felt like a just-out-of-alpha demo. I agree 100% I'd like to add: What's even more sad is that the game is sold for $40. If those issues were present in a F2P game, I bet the playerbase would still be pissed, but much more forgiving. If I spent that kind of money and experienced those issues, I'd probably never touch that company with a ten foot pole "Path of Exile's engine is currently modern, lean and fast." - Chris Wilson, September 19th, 2019 "It looks like we broke something with 3.10.0. We don't know what it is yet." - Bex, March 16th, 2020 Last edited by girng#7675 on Mar 5, 2020, 1:54:22 AM	Posted by girng#7675 on Mar 5, 2020, 1:53:24 AM Quote this Post
Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem (Zero Punctuation) 201,522 views •Mar 4, 2020 https://youtu.be/X-gYsSjIn48 Picked off the top of the YouTube search list for Wolcen posted this week. Quite amusingly presented (if you're not all that big a fan of Wolcen, that is). =^[.]^= =^[.]^= basic (happy/amused) cheetahmoticon: Whiskers/eye/tear-streak/nose/tear-streak/eye/ whiskers =@[.]@= boggled / =>[.]<= annoyed or angry / ='[.]'= concerned / =0[.]o= confuzzled / =-[.]-= sad or sleepy / =[.]= dazzled / =^[.]~= wink / =~[.]^= naughty wink / =9[.]9= rolleyes #FourYearLie	Posted by Raycheetah#7060 on Mar 5, 2020, 9:04:59 AM Alpha Member Quote this Post
Wolcen has potential but it's got a long way to go I dont see any any key!	Posted by k1rage#5701 on Mar 5, 2020, 9:21:30 AM Quote this Post
LOL this thread didn't age well "Path of Exile's engine is currently modern, lean and fast." - Chris Wilson, September 19th, 2019 "It looks like we broke something with 3.10.0. We don't know what it is yet." - Bex, March 16th, 2020 Last edited by girng#7675 on Mar 5, 2020, 1:45:16 PM	Posted by girng#7675 on Mar 5, 2020, 1:45:07 PM Quote this Post
" girng wrote: LOL this thread didn't age well Doesnt need to age well because Wolcen isnt F2P "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln	Posted by DarthSki44#6905 on Mar 5, 2020, 3:33:54 PM On Probation Quote this Post