''This game will dethrone PoE''

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I can not imagine any game currently live or in production to dethrone Path of Exile. It is not because of their quality or lack of it but the way how their business and content release models are structure. GGG's genius is less about how PoE playes and more about how they developed their business model and how they manage to retain their player population.

It certainly sounds like they might have succeeded in dethroning GGG/POE for worst launch at least; and that is saying something with some of the GGG launches.

When are you planning on getting that 40th challenge, I_NO? Can it be that the lady (I'm being gracious here) herself has finally given up?

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Nubatron wrote:

It certainly sounds like they might have succeeded in dethroning GGG/POE for worst launch at least; and that is saying something with some of the GGG launches.

I do not think it is fair to compare new game luanch to challenge league/new content patch launch. Anyway, Wolcen's inability to play online part was serius blunder that was slightly diminished by the fact you could still play offline. If you could not play at all, I think it would seriously impact its overall perception.

This isn't even a discussion. PoE is by far the better game, but its had 7+ years to iron out kinks and add content (still bugs every league)

A couple points:

1. The steam numbers are what they are. Sure they dont account for PoE's standalone client, but in direct comparison more people have played Wolcen on Steam than in the history of PoE. FACT.

2. PoE's core game is boring AF. Without the leagues, the game is dead. Honestly I make it about 6 weeks before it's not really interesting at all. I'm dreading unlocking the atlas again next month...

3. You can play both.

4. Wolcen looks and feels great. I much prefer the pace, to the speed meta PoE has morphed into. I know this isnt for everyone, but actually seeing what the fuck is going on, and dodging mechanics and environmental effects is refreshing.

6. Wolcens town enhancement feature is very interesting to me. It feels good to have somehting going on as you are "mapping"

Lastly, it goes without saying, that Wolcen needs some TLC. Server problems aside, as I'm sure they didnt expect to be at 120k+ concurrent players, there are obvious glitches and exploits to fix (tyranny node, gold duping, stash & character deletion, progression resets, etc..)

Otherwise Wolcen is a decent diversion for the time being. $40 (for me personally means basically nothing), seems like a decent value. I'd like for PoE to take some lessons as well. Since it's clear Wolcen did some "sampling", I thinks its only fair.

D4 will dethrone a game that has 7 years worth of content Kappa.

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I_NO wrote:

I haven't logged in like 2 weeks lol you can't or shouldn't compare to wolcen players right now that's silly.

Most of us are done or got bored.

That's not really relevant as Wolcen has beaten POE for the most concurrent players online ever. Given that POE has been around for a long time with big launches every year or so, this is quite a feat.

https://steamcharts.com/app/238960

https://steamcharts.com/app/424370

A game that can combine PoE's depth with D3's combat system, probably could. But, doesnt seem like a company can pull it off.

I'm hoping PoE2 or D4 manages to do it, and I dont care which one it is.

I mean look at this sham Wolcen. They tried to do this, but the game is such a mess and unfinished, it has no chance. But, look how much release success it has, just because its basically Vanilla D3, with a smidge of PoE skill-tree in it. It actually cracks me up listening to people talk about how amazing its combat is, when they then flame D3. YOUR PLAYING NON-SET VANILLA D3, lol. I mean this game went wild on sales for the fact it copied everything vanilla D3 is, and then threw in a PoE talent tree.

So, I would like to see a company, even GGG/Blizzard, to find a way to have the combat system of D3 mixed with the depth of PoE, and be online. It would probably be a pretty solid success.

Peak of PoE is 200k+. It was in Legion or Betrayal. Also Wolcen will be dead as soon new league of PoE will appear.