''This game will dethrone PoE''

Wolcen has so many bugs they should PAY YOU instead to play their shit game and find all the bugs.
Its like paying 40$ to play alpha version of the game.

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Jerle wrote:

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Sol_Starving wrote:

An arpg with well implemented pve co-op and pvp can easily dethrone poe.
You can put whaterver argument in my mouth you want, but it is a fact that PoE doesn't have this.

I agree with this 100%. But there is no game in sight that clearly has this either.

ye, i wish i could go back in time and redo all my ultima online years, a game that had more in depth game design than every other games after that.
in my point of view we live in the "pachinko age of games". is not a coincidence poe is being relised also on mobile.

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Baron01 wrote:

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codetaku wrote:

I'm a different person, ...

Yes, you are a different person so why bother quoting me clearly pointing my post to a specific person?

Easy: because I 100% shared their opinion, and you were implying that anyone with their opinion was just salty about not being able to afford the game.

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Aynix wrote:

Wolcen has so many bugs they should PAY YOU instead to play their shit game and find all the bugs.
Its like paying 40$ to play alpha version of the game.

The alpha was only 20$. :D

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Mikrotherion wrote:

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Aynix wrote:

Wolcen has so many bugs they should PAY YOU instead to play their shit game and find all the bugs.
Its like paying 40$ to play alpha version of the game.

The alpha was only 20$. :D

Not gonna lie, the actual alpha had less bugs than the official release.

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Aynix wrote:

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Mikrotherion wrote:

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Aynix wrote:

Wolcen has so many bugs they should PAY YOU instead to play their shit game and find all the bugs.
Its like paying 40$ to play alpha version of the game.

The alpha was only 20$. :D

Not gonna lie, the actual alpha had less bugs than the official release.

Just out of curiocity I gone to the most populated poe discord server and counted how many onliners are playing ope and wolcen

So

PoE - 9
Wolcen - 21

I stopped on this.
This rate was kinda stable on grow.
So it is telling.
Sure its .. well technically we have about one more month of this league. But why no one use this month so much, uh?

Yeah.
Was curious.
May be I should start to play Wolcen too.

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Sure its .. well technically we have about one more month of this league. But why no one use this month so much, uh?

The majority of players are usually done by the 2nd month, before that if it's an unpopular league. There are still players in the third month though, usually ones still finishing up their challenges.

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Xystre wrote:

"I will shit on wolcen but I will ignore poe flaws despite the same bugs showing up every new league to reinforce my argument that poe is still best game"

It is better than Wolcen. To play it (PoE) i didnt have to pay for it.

I try and try to understand, but I can't see the "Wolcen DEAD GAME" viewpoint.

People complaining about server stability, crashes, bugs...sure...it would be better if the game hadn't released with these problems.

However, they went from 1 chapter to 3, fleshed out endgame for release, and (most importantly) went from 1800 concurrent players to over 100,000.

There was NO way they could have anticipated that. Imagine working at a clothing store that has 10 customers a day, then one day, having 1,000 customers.

The infrastructure wouldn't hold that many people. It would be physically impossible to handle that many customers on what would probably be a 2 person staff.

I've seen video of 1.0 PoE...and I think people are forgetting how HORRIBLE it was. Desync everywhere, rubberbanding, dying to literally nothing...

I'm not defending Wolcen as a POE killer or anything. I'm just saying that comparing a game that's been out for 7 years vs one that's been out for 7 days...is a bit of logical fallacy. Might as well take a 7 day old child and slap them across the face for not being able to pass their 2nd grade spelling test.

Obviously, it shouldn't take 7 years to become playable...but give it a couple months before making outrageous claims. Hell, even Anthem lived longer than 7 days. :D

Oh, I don't think Wolcen is a "dead" game. I just think that, for now, it seems like a *bad* game.

It could get better, maybe, but if I ever decide to buy it, I'm definitely never playing Online unless I hear that they have completely reset it (or made a League/Ladder system like PoE/D2).

Whiiiiich probably means I'll wait until they've made a bunch of endgame expansions that are all considered super fun and interesting for single player mode.