General Discussion - Can we stop pretending that Path of Exile is free to play? - Forum

" ivkoto77777 wrote: Hahahaha, nice one! I bet that some day, people on this forum will come out and say that giving you a 10% damage boost for 10$ is not p2w! WHEN and IF those will happen THEN we will talk. Right now it is PAY FOR CONVENIENCE. Last edited by de99ial#0161 on Mar 7, 2020, 12:13:24 AM	Posted by de99ial#0161 on Mar 7, 2020, 12:13:02 AM Quote this Post
All you nubs and not a single classic supporter icon....i've been here from the beginning of time	Posted by maddmister#2685 on Mar 7, 2020, 12:37:24 AM Quote this Post
" Boem wrote: This was the actual context of my post which you just blatantly left out simply proving my earlier post about being disingenuous. " Boem wrote: " SeCKSEgai wrote: What folks have been trying to point out is that while you may be selling plenty, it's a ton of micro that someone with 4 tabs would instead spend mapping and focusing on the most valuable. I used to sell a lot too, but that's not just time spent picking up the item, it's also sorting it, pricing it, waiting for a buyer and waiting for that buyer to actually show up and pay. And then there's all that other time wasted when folks message you and never show or change their mind etc. Obviously, tabs are still an advantage when used efficiently - but as you're even showing we don't tend to use them that way when we have the extra space. In other words, it's not some glaring advantage that guarantees you make more than the guy/girl who doesn't have them. They just have to focus on the big ticket items and efficiently clearing and thus where one is bogged in micro, the other is rolling the dice more often so to speak by killing more monsters. Between Legion until now I didn't realize how much that extra micro was costing me. At least I'm vendoring jewelry more consistently. He doesn't get it is all. He probably thinks leaving your map for a 3 chaos deal is "worth it" but at the same time it's the people that only leave their map for an exalt or 80 chaos+ per trade that run the economy. Doing the low level deals is a choice, but saying its inherently beneficial or efficient is just flawed propaganda to justify his own inneficient farming. Peace, -Boem- I have no issue with people playing inneficiently, but being deluded and claiming its an efficient strategy is an entirely different thing. Peace, -Boem- Your statements are just another example of your lies about me. First, I copied your whole post. Second, I didn't say any of the things that you claim I said, i.e., you were lying when you said that I claimed it was an efficient strategy. I just stated that when trading it is an advantage to have more tabs. Your efficiency argument is stupid because it once again assumes that if you have more tabs then one must be doing something inefficiently, which is not true. Third, You have no clue how I play or the context of how I trade, i.e., you were lying were making up stories about what I might do to try and insult and belittle me. Your logic is fatally flawed in that it is obvious that having more stash tabs is an advantage but you continue to make the silly claim that it is no advantage and have even gone so far in the past to state explicitly and here implicitly that it was more advantageous to have four tabs. Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!	Posted by Turtledove#4014 on Mar 7, 2020, 2:45:14 AM Quote this Post
" de99ial wrote: " ivkoto77777 wrote: Hahahaha, nice one! I bet that some day, people on this forum will come out and say that giving you a 10% damage boost for 10$ is not p2w! WHEN and IF those will happen THEN we will talk. Right now it is PAY FOR CONVENIENCE. The game is trade centric. The game is competitive. There is paid trading advantage. We have been "there" for years now, but you just don't like to admit it to yourself.	Posted by ivkoto77777#0822 on Mar 7, 2020, 3:28:39 AM Quote this Post
" Boem wrote: " Rexeos wrote: " Boem wrote: ... And the best way to learn item efficiency is in the absence of item space. ... From your posts can be seen, you want to be taken seriously, but in the same time you say somthing rofl. It was told few times, that efficiency to pursue some goal is good to control, everybody knows that, everybody sooner or later learns that; because of some reason you still think that players are stupid and dont understand it. If you don't understand that scarcity drives value why are you even commenting? Peace, -Boem- "If you don't understand" - its prejudice, your comments are many times full of ignorance similar to this; what and how people think, what they do, being deluded, saying they claim something when in fact you fabricate that.. Still your statement about efficiency vs absence of space is absurd. ... In the end it looks like you are talking about urself, but yet you think you talk in the name of many. Besides after comment like you posted your "peace" stinks. Last edited by Rexeos#3429 on Mar 7, 2020, 5:34:49 AM	Posted by Rexeos#3429 on Mar 7, 2020, 5:27:40 AM Quote this Post
Turtle and Boem, you guys amuse me =) In one of the feedback threads there's this guy I swear who bought their account. Like, regardless of opinions on ftp, there's no doubt that you guys have put in time. When someone doesn't even get the dumpster league reference to standard, all the while telling folks that standard doesn't matter because of league.... I prefer watching you two find new ways to argue the same points of view. Yep, totally over league play.	Posted by SeCKSEgai#6175 on Mar 7, 2020, 5:35:03 AM Quote this Post
" ivkoto77777 wrote: " de99ial wrote: " ivkoto77777 wrote: Hahahaha, nice one! I bet that some day, people on this forum will come out and say that giving you a 10% damage boost for 10$ is not p2w! WHEN and IF those will happen THEN we will talk. Right now it is PAY FOR CONVENIENCE. The game is trade centric. The game is competitive. There is paid trading advantage. We have been "there" for years now, but you just don't like to admit it to yourself. Only if you make it trade centric. You can play SSF and there's still competition (who gets to 100 first, first ÜE kill, etc.), but it's not trade centric anymore. And you don't have the trading advantage anymore. Bird lover of Wraeclast Las estrellas te iluminan - Hoy te sirven de guía Te sientes tan fuerte que piensas - que nadie te puede tocar	Posted by Mikrotherion#4706 on Mar 7, 2020, 5:48:38 AM Quote this Post
" SeCKSEgai wrote: Turtle and Boem, you guys amuse me =) In one of the feedback threads there's this guy I swear who bought their account. Like, regardless of opinions on ftp, there's no doubt that you guys have put in time. When someone doesn't even get the dumpster league reference to standard, all the while telling folks that standard doesn't matter because of league.... I prefer watching you two find new ways to argue the same points of view. Your post was a fine attempt at trying to explain him something about economics in PoE which he isn't taking into account. Which was then promptly ignored. He honestly thinks that "he doesn't get it" referred to his play-style rather then your post attempting to explain something and being ignored. Like i literally copy the entire context and call him out on not doing so and he starts his next post with "first, i copied your whole post". It's all fun and games. Peace, -Boem- Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes	Posted by Boem#2861 on Mar 7, 2020, 9:53:25 AM On Probation Quote this Post
" ivkoto77777 wrote: " de99ial wrote: " ivkoto77777 wrote: Hahahaha, nice one! I bet that some day, people on this forum will come out and say that giving you a 10% damage boost for 10$ is not p2w! WHEN and IF those will happen THEN we will talk. Right now it is PAY FOR CONVENIENCE. The game is trade centric. The game is competitive. There is paid trading advantage. We have been "there" for years now, but you just don't like to admit it to yourself. I dont care about trading. Im SSF player and still am enjoying that game. Your point would be valid IF game were ONLY about trading but then noone would play it.	Posted by de99ial#0161 on Mar 7, 2020, 10:08:05 AM Quote this Post
the game expects you to trade isn't really the same as being balanced around it, you could trade on a glacial hammer pleb and you'd get absolutely dicked on by a necro SSF in the last 2 leagues. The games free, the only way it wouldn't be f2p is if you couldn't fight kitava until you bought a tab lol I can't believe this has made it to nearly 60 pages. They should give us a premium tab for free or tbh do away with regular tabs entirely.	Posted by Draegnarrr#2823 on Mar 7, 2020, 11:05:05 AM Quote this Post