Disable insta logout for 3.9

I would love to see the reactions to the new SSF HC race when the top racer bounce these logouts to stay in race...

Someone is going to win 8000 dollars in the upcoming race.

Do you want the winner to be the person with the best logout script / best logout reaction time?

I dont.

The only things you can do about that have very undesirable unintended consequences elsewhere. There really is no reason to care so much. You're not in the running for that money. I'm certainly not. Basically nobody talking about it here is.

IMAGINE all these streamers and racers playing HC without macros, they would be more than happy to finish Trials of AScendancy.

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Logout macro won't help you if the game closed or crashed.

No, you're wrong. The logout macro forcibly closes the game connections. So if the game crashed the server removes your character almost instantly (depending on your reaction or script logic). It has nothing to the game UI. It helps a lot in case of freeze / hang up.

Do you really think the streamers are so unskilled that cannot gain ascendancy without it? LMAO. Join the race and show everyone how you're skilled or it's just a shitposting. Your post just don't make sense if you never defeated UE on HC.

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WowFanBoy wrote:

Then let's see what HC looks like...

I haven't played for a little bit, but it always bothered me when watching HC streamers when they hit their oh shut button to insta logout when it got deep.

Love to see a 5 or 10 second logout timer.

So .... I guess you've never touched HC, but it bothers you when people play it the way it's supposed to be played even though it does nothing regarding yourself ?


NICE!
/s

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Fluffy_Puppies wrote:

"You can't dodge that telegraphed boss slam with a 1,500 ping?? Lol git gud scrub!"

That is what you sound like.

I lol'd

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wilcovie wrote:

Maybe make logout recovery timer. You can logout instant but only once per 10 minutes. It will prevent you from dying at lag spike etc. But this wont be abused.

Make it 5 mins and increase the lifespan of all instance that the player has been in and that are still active byt 5 mins .... and you might have quite a good idea there.

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sarannah101 wrote:

Or maybe many players do not play hardcore because some players cheat this mode with the logout macro

or maybe maybe maybe .... some wannabe HC players are too happy to find an excuse of why they are not playing HC ( but they would loooove the bragging rights for sure ) and with this selfish reasoning ( as they would not play HC anyway for other reasons ) want to change a game mode that has no impact on them whatsoever.

Toxic, I know.

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sarannah101 wrote:

The only thing actually dangerous in the game, if you know what you are doing, is betrayal exiles. As these do multiple one-shots at the same time, making it basically impossible to outplay. Especially on some builds and in tiny areas.

Okay, you're one of those players who don't know how to build a properly balanced character ( with things called "defences", just in case ) then, and you dare come and say that the game is easy ? lulz
Yeah you've never touched HC for sure, yet it does not seem to be a problem to you to take this condescending tone huh.

No, the indicate is far from being the rippiest thing in PoE.

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sarannah101 wrote:

if you disconnect, the logout macro will not work either. So the disconnect excuse does not fly

You don't know what you're talking about :
- you can log out when the network starts 'spiking'
- the abscence of a log out timer ( which is what is allowing instantly logging out in the first place ) is what makes characters survive to abrudpt complete disconnections in some (many) cases.
- generally, YES, it does work, unless there is a packet loss (are packet losses?), which fortunately ( I guess it depends on the connection too ? ) is somewhat rare.


PS : being against log out macro and not mentioning (almost) instantly portaling out of combat is hypocrisy, by the way.

that instant-logout function eats at the very essence of hardcore, so long as it exists hardcore is next to meaningless to achieve anything in.

People in standard use this as well and it also disgusts me..

I'm a standard player at heart and always will be but Hardcore has always been something i respected... Until this logout macro crap came into view and since that point all i have been able to see is a bunch of people using the system to pretend they are hardcore.

Hardcore is supposed to MEAN SOMETHING and back in the day when i did play hardcore it still meant something, The interactions i had there shaped my future in standard and beyond, I went from being a completely clueless noob to actually trying to understand wtf i was doing.

(clueless does not even begin to describe how i was back then)

/shrug

Other things do need to be corrected as @FRUZ mentioned though i disagree with him on a cooldown for the macro and think it should be removed entirely that is not without concern for the cause of the need for using it, those issues also need to be correctly addressed before it can be removed.

Dying from some lag that is in no way your fault at level 99 in hardcore for example must be an absolutely soul crushing experience that only the most dedicated hardcore players have been able to live with.

Hopefully the new engine brings performance gains both in the network and hardware enough to warrant its removal and perhaps a revival of a true sense of pride for hardcore players especially those who do not use the macro and are stained by the actions of those who do.

Edit: @FRUZ i'd be totally fine with them putting a combat timer required to cooldown before placing a portal, It would ceartainly suck for me now and then but thats on me for going into a fight i was not prepared for.. for whatever reason.

I've ran from more than a couple of fights using a portal when i would have surely died, its also cheap AF considering in standard/league we just respawn, It's only fair if the HC logout method is removed imo.

Disagree^?

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SilentSymphony wrote:

Hardcore is supposed to MEAN SOMETHING and back in the day when i did play hardcore it still meant something

Because hitting Escape, moving the cursor and click the "exit to login screen" button as fast as possible was hardcore to you ?

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SilentSymphony wrote:

Edit: @FRUZ i'd be totally fine with them putting a combat timer required to cooldown before placing a portal, It would ceartainly suck for me now and then but thats on me for going into a fight i was not prepared for.. for whatever reason.

I've ran from more than a couple of fights using a portal when i would have surely died, its also cheap AF considering in standard/league we just respawn, It's only fair if the HC logout method is removed imo.

Disagree^?

It would prohibit any kind of experimentation in HC, and that would be bad.
I had a lot of fun running the a4-10 at first completely blind.
I don't think that I logged out to get out of a stinky situation during that, but not being able to portal out of combat with all the small arenas would just be a no-go imho.
GGG has been developping everything with this in mind, they would need to rebalance many things if they were to add a combat timer before using a portal.

Such a timer would make sense in many ways, but it would not fit PoE currently.

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SilentSymphony wrote:

Hopefully the new engine brings performance gains both in the network and hardware enough to

Disagree^?

Level your character up to 99-100 in 4.0 on HC without logout macro and probably we will believe you.

No idea why ppl think the logout macro gives immortality.

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Fruz wrote:

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SilentSymphony wrote:

Hardcore is supposed to MEAN SOMETHING and back in the day when i did play hardcore it still meant something

Because hitting Escape, moving the cursor and click the "exit to login screen" button as fast as possible was hardcore to you ?

Lol I've never done that though i will be honest i'd struggle after a few deaths in HC not to do it myself and eventually cave, My adventure in hardcore was with an experienced user who was giving me a lot of advice which i readily ignored until i died next to him in the chamber of sins to some trash mobs.

Anyway I'll bow out here as i cannot further contribute anything to a topic so obviously centered around Hardcore which i have not played in years.

GL with all that y'all