Blight going core will suck and frustrate most players

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Phrazz wrote:

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Exile009 wrote:

(rewarding or not)

This!

People these days seem to only measure leagues by the loot explosions. "Blight sucks ass because it isn't rewarding".

If I should measure Blight by rewards, it would go like this: I'm fairly casual in terms of ambitions and skills, but I've played quite a lot this league. And I have probably 100 ex worth of gear on my character. I feel that it pretty "rewarding". And 99% of the Blighted Maps I've run, have been pretty decent in terms of rewards.

But rewards aren't everything. Mechanics are at least as important. And I very much like Blight. It makes you interact with the game. It makes you think and make choices. It differs from the "zoomzoom" that was Legion.

Agree.
Having new content or mechanics to enjoy every three months is rewarding enough imho.
New things to try and new items to chase.
Even new MTXs that I like and have to pay, I am grateful.

PoE is actually quite fun and rewarding enough.
Perhaps people are just too spoiled that if they can't get the best of the best gear in 3 days they cry about it.
Or not making enough exalts in 10 mins makes this league unplayable.

But I dunno, I'm just a casual pleb trying to play this game.

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element274 wrote:

PoE is actually quite fun and rewarding enough.

*For you.*

There are a TON of people that judge any activity or game by the rewards or feeling of reward that they offer.

It seems as if people are more pressed for time in their real lives, games like POE fall to the side if they don't juice the rewards.

Legion was no accident. That overtuned loot was a test just like this blight league with "Slighty less" reward is a test.

I don't think there is an unequivocal correct answer to "how much is enough"?

People expect a certain amount of reward for the time put in. The problem is that Legion was 0 time with tons of loot... Blight is at least 2-5 minutes for less loot than legion.

Legion may have been a mistake who knows... but I think there is nothing inherently wrong at looking a league with a TVM or time value of money approach. If you don't make the shit rewarding (sometimes excessively) people won't bother with it.

Especially if it is like Blight where certain builds (looking at you attack builds) just feel shitty to play compared to the meta.

This leagues mechanics can be good, but I feel like the entire league is tuned to the broken ass minion builds right now. It's pretty stress free fucking around with towers and stuff in blight maps when you have an army of super aggressive mobs killing anything coming close to the objective.

If you play any other build that isn't set-it-and-forget-it, the fucking league feels like TRASH and more stress than it's worth.

I personally believe blight missed the "reward" mark as much as legion did, but fore different reasons and in a different way.

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Prizy wrote:

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element274 wrote:

PoE is actually quite fun and rewarding enough.

*For you.*

Fair enough.

But perhaps every league is different, maybe instead of looking every league as exalts per minute, we can simply be excited that we have some new interesting mechanics and enjoy those new content with a Necro Build. Perhaps this time we need more time to reap the same rewards we got from the previous league. And maybe our reliable cookie cutter melee build is not as good this time.

But yes yours is a valid argument.
I'm just saying.

It is always amusing when some Forum poster claim to speak for "most players."

When it comes to the Blight Mechanic which is Tower Defense, I find this to be totally ok-ish really. And I am to a certain degree enjoying it. It is all ok to do it. But I do not wish to see this Tower thing becoming a permanent and in Core thing.
But it is not up to me to decide whether it is going to be or not.

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I love blighted maps, they are fun and unique.
However im not playing this league any longer. Grind in games can be "good" and "bad". Sadly it seems that latter is the one that GGG decided to use.

Agreed. I stop playing because I refuse to engage in a mini tower defense for an orb of alchemy and some trash oils in a T16 map. The only reason to engage in the tower defense is the hope of a blighted map drop. Sadly, it remained a hope. My challenge counter says I got more uber elder kills (4) than blighted maps completed (2!).

Why restrict the access to the only meaningful league mechanic? I is because blighted maps fry the servers and they have to limit them for performance reason which ruins the calculated drop balance?

Its not gonna go core, this league is literally cancer for the game.

I enjoy Blight, and I hope it goes core. The oils/map dropping definitely need to be upped but I bet Delve Blight encounters could really help that.

I like Blight content a lot, but do have issues with Blighted maps feeling too rare--in the league itself, no less. At a 10% spawn rate... Oof.

That said, rates of some things have gotten better after their leagues. I've found more Delve bosses and more Legendary Beasts (or whatever they're called) in basically every league since the actual leagues (it's pretty easy to beat 0 though, I'll admit). Maybe they could just drop blighted maps into the regular drop pool and end up with a rate that's not so bad. The in-map encounters aren't all that hot regardless outside of being a tutorial, so if we could just get Blighted maps at a decent rate I'd be happy enough.

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LaurelWreaths wrote:

1-2 blighted maps per month

hahah
this nice one!

i've got ~10 blighted maps in 3 weeks :)
and all were 1-3 tier, only 2 was 7-8 tier. :`(

it's really "cool" when you get a 1-3 tier blighted map on t15 Cassia.