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Astasia wrote:
Funny thing to me, is a "necromancer" style summoner has probably been my most played build since PoE came out and I never felt the need to use the Violent Dead jewel. Zombies have never really been _the_ damage of a summoner build, they kill trash somewhat and keep you alive, but you summon skeletons on bosses to kill them quickly, and some sort of spectres with like GMP or whatever tends to be the sweeper. Why waste two jewel slots on zombie damage?
My first thought about the removal of this jewel without any explanation was because nobody ever used it anyway.
My answer would be that zombies are permanent, while skeletons are not. I like AFK style builds more. Also, I disagree that zombies were never meant to kill things or the fact that "no one ever used violent dead jewel".
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Posted byVarskar#5872on Sep 4, 2019, 8:33:13 PM
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Astasia wrote:
Funny thing to me, is a "necromancer" style summoner has probably been my most played build since PoE came out and I never felt the need to use the Violent Dead jewel. Zombies have never really been _the_ damage of a summoner build, they kill trash somewhat and keep you alive, but you summon skeletons on bosses to kill them quickly, and some sort of spectres with like GMP or whatever tends to be the sweeper. Why waste two jewel slots on zombie damage?
My first thought about the removal of this jewel without any explanation was because nobody ever used it anyway.
My answer would be that zombies are permanent, while skeletons are not. I like AFK style builds more. Also, I disagree that zombies were never meant to kill things or the fact that "no one ever used violent dead jewel".
Really sounds like they’re projecting their own opinion onto the masses here.
Fact of the matter is, every build that used zombies as a minion proper used them for their slam, because it was effective and efficient. You always got that 300% cooldown speed because it made zombies feel GOOD.
I’m of the opinion that GGG has just not used their own vast terminology correctly and that very odd 76% is actually a reduction instead of cooldown recovery speed.
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Posted byARC_Paroe#9955on Sep 4, 2019, 8:54:25 PM
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Hmm, usually prefacing something with "my thought" does a good enough job making it clear that I'm just expressing my opinion or "thoughts" on a subject. Odd that doesn't always seem to work here. I will continue to find the topic amusing either way.
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Posted byAstasia#2760on Sep 4, 2019, 9:00:44 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/czot6y/summoner_things_that_we_still_could_use_info_on/ez1nlb0/?context=3 rory has some qoutes here not a lot of good news for zombie lovers, will have to see how the gem feels in 3.8 otherwise might just stay in standard with legacy violent dead.
takeaways i got was base slam speed is 4, down from 5s
zombies at gem levels
"The max zombies are 4 at 5, 5 at 10, 6 at 15, 7 at 20, 8 at 25, 9 at 30 and 10 at 35."
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Posted byFhark#5469on Sep 4, 2019, 11:52:29 PM
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Neither side of the discussion has a leg to stand on. Too many unknowns in this system of equations. But it's more fun to sling poo at each other than it is to be patient and see what happens.
This shit happens every time patch notes are released.
It's super obnoxious, too. Doesn't matter what Grinding Gear changes or improves - I had to stop myself from dancing for joy when I saw that we can Control+Scroll through stash tabs now.
Nah.
These folks look through the patch notes specifically and solely for whatever got nerfed and then post thousands of pages of shrieking nerdrage.
"Zombie slam cooldown got nerfed! SUMMONERS LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE!!1! DX"
"You...you didn't see the actual truckload of buffs and QoL improvements and stuff that summoners got in 3.8 alongside - "
"NOOHHH! SLAM COOLDOWN NERF'D, LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE !!!!1!1!! DDDDDX"
Absolutely ridiculous. If you can't make a super potent summoner in this league, you need remedial Path of Exile practice. To hell with zombie slam cooldowns.
Imagine people being critical of the most broken game ever in existence. Unheard of! I bet you'd play with a stick that had dog shit on it and not complain a single time. Can't define an IQ by how much money you waste on MTX apparently! xD
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Posted byUnholyHanma#6280on Sep 5, 2019, 12:49:48 AM
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Astasia wrote:
Hmm, usually prefacing something with "my thought" does a good enough job making it clear that I'm just expressing my opinion...
That really depends on the phrasing. Your post reads like:
My thought about the removal: Not important (the opinion part) - no one uses the jewel anyway. (sounds like you're expressing a fact)
Bird lover of Wraeclast
Las estrellas te iluminan - Hoy te sirven de guía
Te sientes tan fuerte que piensas - que nadie te puede tocar
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Posted byMikrotherion#4706on Sep 5, 2019, 2:17:06 AM
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Maybe I should just pass this league and play WoW Classic instead. Sigh...
bye!
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Posted byice2k#7076on Sep 5, 2019, 2:28:40 AM
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It's pretty obvious that the correct way to play summoner is to use Tornado Shot.
Lol :P Tornado Shot & Headhunter.
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Posted byvoonvoon#6984on Sep 5, 2019, 2:30:11 AM
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they also removed 100% inc aoe for zombie slams
from I what I see right now zombiemancer is a dead build, unless there are some hidden changes in zombie basic stat.
and passive tree got nerfed hard btw, check my zombiemancer tree right now and tell me I can do better tree in 3.8:D
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In fact massive zombie slam nerf began previous patch with destroying multistrike gem.
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Posted bytm10067#1871on Sep 5, 2019, 6:23:51 AM
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