Here's an early look at the Raider Ascendancy in Path of Exile: Blight
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im so confused by people
the only reason to go raider is to have strong defense (evade cap) very easily, basically no investment. how little investment? my main raider on standard (which i don't play and need to respec now) has 1,021 evasion on gear. that is it. gloves and atziri's step boots. has 77% evade chance. 95% with jade flask of reflexes. boom. or, skip the flask and just use grace. 92% evasion at all times. now with the changes it only makes it easier. you wouldn't even need any base evasion, or that 92% with grace would be 95% now, easily. EVASION BUFFS IS NOT WHAT RAIDER NEEDED OR WANTED also, right side of the tree doesn't have life?? man people are delusional. raider is straight up the most defensive ascendancy in the game for its investment. however it lacks so much in damage that it is only a good choice if you are using skills which have so much damage on their own and really don't need your ascendancy to boost it. and with the new guard skills evasion has really fallen out of favour |
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" No, its not. Focusing on evasion is like playing russian roulette. Its great untill its not. The momeny RNG fails and enemy hits you, you are dead. Unlike other classes that have more life and will survive with like 10-15% life. |
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" with evade cap and some dodge you can get 97-99% attack avoidance. sure, eventually you could get hit, but this idea that every time you get hit you're dead is pretty ridiculous. also, one shots happen to essentially everybody no matter how much damage mitigation you stack. saw a clip of a Zizaran build basically had something like 20,000 ehp and just got deleted instantaneously in a map vs random blue mobs. so, it happens to everyone. stacking damage avoidance means it happens less often. you can also stack other forms of defense and some mitigation on top of the evade cap. my point still stands. its the most defense for its investment. 4 ascendancy points, blind, and a flask and you're evade cap. nothing else can give you that much defensive power for so little. edit: also people highly HIGHLY underestimate the hp you can get on the right side of the tree. i prefer it all day every day compared to the left side of the tree. i find it much easier to get 190-200% hp. takes less passive investment, mostly because the hp values are higher since they're less frequent, but they're also clustered around damage/utility nodes you want to get anyway. AKA they're less out of the way on the left side of the tree the hp values are lower because they're more frequent, but their frequency is all over the place, causing you to burn passives to travel to them. i find it highly inefficient. but people just like the echo chamber. doesn't matter to me, i've abused raiders power a ton. couple it with a skill that doesn't need much damage investment like pre-nerf molten strike and it was an insane build Last edited by xMustard#3403 on Sep 1, 2019, 10:27:35 AM
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" Yes. It frustrates me to no end. It's like some people don't know how to be positive. It's like some people don't realize that GGGs employees read these posts and feel disheartened about the effort and work they've been putting in non-stop to try and make these patches as awesome as possible. Of course, if something is wrong people should absolutely complain. Nothing good will come of ignoring issues. It's just there's a prevailing tone of sourness across so many posts on these forums, sometimes over the most absurd of things. Very rarely do people voice their complaints in a reasonable manner, something along the lines of "I like THIS, THIS and THIS, I can see some issues HERE, overall good work though!" instead, GGG gets "This is TERRIBLE everything is TERRIBLE why the f*ck would you do this GGG???" Honestly wouldn't surprise me if a lot of GGG employees avoid the forums because of this nonsense. |
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" 97-99% attack avoidance? Then go to any end game boss (Guardians, Elder Guardians, Shaper, Uber Atziri, Delve boss Uber Elder, just pick one) and stay in one place w/o doing anything. Let me know how long it took untill you died to oneshot (Im betting couple seconds at max) You will realize how "good"(or rather bad) is evasion when it REALLY matters. |
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" maybe they shouldnt listen to reddit then for once? if they are that disheartened then the different opinion would be less different? but who I'm kidding, that's never going to happen when you can embrace fresh memes made on paint and a hivemind system. "Parade your victories, hide your defeats. Mortals are so insecure."
Once you break the cycle of fear no angels or demons can whisper you their sweet nothing words. poe0.2/10. Nuff said. |
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" trust me, i know, because i've played it for years. while people like you typically haven't and just spit out stuff like this. the other bonuses that damage avoidance has over damage mitigation, is the avoidance of on hit effects such as stun, poison, bleed, crits, etc. once you get hit you also have plenty of time to heal back up to full before getting hit again. funny enough Woolfio had a challenge where he had CI and EB (1 life, es protects mana) and played through the game trying to avoid all things to see how hard it was. obviously he had to stack pure damage avoidance since mitigation would do nothing at this point. he got to shaper guardians, and the most dangerous thing in the game were barrels since you can't avoid its explosive damage which one shots you in this challenge. he didn't even go about it the most effective way because that would have been "too easy" yes, it is good, regardless of what people say. but echo chambers are real |
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" As if someone playing Evasion-Stacking Raider (A build that also guarenteedly takes the Onslaught side of the Ascendancy would ever be standing still doing nothing. Also, Raider is intended to be stacked with Dodge/Spell-Dodge. Once you get Evasion Cap and 50%+ Dodge and Spell Dodge you are basically un-killable as long as... you know. You play the game. Evasion is also NOT random, as can easily be seen on the wiki. To put a long story short, as long as you have been hit by an attack you, 100% guarenteed will ALWAYS avoid 19 attack hits before the next thing smacks you. Spell Dodge covers Spells. But don't want to take my word for it? HoAG Raider. There is a clip of that setup (during Betrayal) killing a Ghosted Uber Elder on extremely budget gear (apart from a level 3 empower and double grace watcher's eye), as well as a depth 821 Kurgal, and depth 869 Aul. That build is still just as effective. |
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" Exactly, GGG has ignored their own forums for so long, and this is the result. |
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Question: How much flat evasion do you need to reach the cap? As in after all the flask effects / multipliers etc what number do you need for it to be capped evasion?
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