Will there be a new atlas every league now?

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Nishrek wrote:

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Kellog wrote:

I'd contemplated buying the new unique's tab when the sale came but it'll probably be redundant next league.

Same here.

Also sorry, but "technical limitations" excuse about keeping AoW progress/converting maps is total bullshit.
Please GGG do not treat your customers like morons.

It is a complete and utter lie.

The "Inconvenience" line from Bex is purely lip service, and Chris' talk of "really hard" on the podcast is garbage.

There are multiple solutions to this problem where the solution is as simple as copying existing code, and editing it to fit Maps, or Copying Vendor Code, and editing the operator from 3 to 1 on a specific vendor, that are all at least stop gaps.

What further disappoints, is that they went out of their way to create a post about all the crap parts of Synthesis, and how they are planning to fix them, but they couldn't even bother to close or insert something like:

"Also, with regards to the Atlas, and Map problems that have arisen in the Standard League in response to the decision to create a new Atlas each league, we are actively working on deploying a solution to alleviate the burden that exists in the league currently."

I get it. It's not "Synthesis League Related", but it's a "Synthesis League Created" Problem.

I was giving them Synthesis League to get things figured out in Standard, but now that I'm actually to a point where I'm mapping in the league, it's AWFUL. They can claim that they've upped map drops all they want. If you can't sustain T3 Maps when you first get into mapping, while you are Alching each and every map that you are running, that's more than just bad luck.

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Kellog wrote:

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sendantes wrote:

the folks that thought ggg was not putting tabs on sale because of this bullshit stunt, can finally let go of the notion that they give a shit.

the tabs are on sale today including the map tab without a single word about the clusterfuck they created.

I'd contemplated buying the new unique's tab when the sale came but it'll probably be redundant next league.

If you need help deciding... you can't link items in the forum from the Unique Tab. A tab for showing off your uniques… and you can't show them off.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

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Kellog wrote:

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sendantes wrote:

the folks that thought ggg was not putting tabs on sale because of this bullshit stunt, can finally let go of the notion that they give a shit.

the tabs are on sale today including the map tab without a single word about the clusterfuck they created.

I'd contemplated buying the new unique's tab when the sale came but it'll probably be redundant next league.

If you need help deciding... you can't link items in the forum from the Unique Tab. A tab for showing off your uniques… and you can't show them off.

So like the map tab, one cannot open the new unique collection tab from your Internet browser?!

That's funny!

I wonder if after every league there will be a remove only unique collection tab permanently left in your standard stash?

So sorry for my newb question here, I don't play standard. So in standard when there is an atlas update you don't get a fresh map tab for the new series of maps unless you buy another one? That doesn't make sense to me, why not just make the old version remove only, and leave a fresh one for the new series of maps when they drop.


Still doesn't address the issue of the appeal to standard as I understand it is so you can play the game at your own pace, and not lose your progression. But resetting the atlas every 3 months doesn't really allow for this, even in standard. Now you are just forcing players to run non rewarding content to get back up to the level of rewarding content they were running before

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shishkabob wrote:

So sorry for my newb question here, I don't play standard. So in standard when there is an atlas update you don't get a fresh map tab for the new series of maps unless you buy another one? That doesn't make sense to me, why not just make the old version remove only, and leave a fresh one for the new series of maps when they drop.


Still doesn't address the issue of the appeal to standard as I understand it is so you can play the game at your own pace, and not lose your progression. But resetting the atlas every 3 months doesn't really allow for this, even in standard. Now you are just forcing players to run non rewarding content to get back up to the level of rewarding content they were running before

the latter issue is solved with simply running one t16 corrupted as it unlocks all but the guardian maps - this is an inconvience with each reset but not game breaking. The reason this thread exists is for the first part of your quote , and GGGs greed. The proposed solution of making them remove only has been iterated countless times, and yet this is too hard for GGG as they only want your money. Sadly the marketing team at GGG must be a bunch of apes , because they don't seem to grasp the fact that if you make the player base upset you get no money opposed to some money at some point.
Standard players tend to have the most disposable income as the majority are people who have full time jobs and other outside commitments where the league just does not make sense to play.

Hopefully they release a fix for this issue, as there are countless fixes that simply require a copy paste of code.

I was going to buy cruicible pack , but i am holding off until GGG shows that they care about all their paying customers and not just the content being streamed.

everyone in this thread should spam every post by GGG until something is done.

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shishkabob wrote:

So sorry for my newb question here, I don't play standard. So in standard when there is an atlas update you don't get a fresh map tab for the new series of maps unless you buy another one? That doesn't make sense to me, why not just make the old version remove only, and leave a fresh one for the new series of maps when they drop.


Still doesn't address the issue of the appeal to standard as I understand it is so you can play the game at your own pace, and not lose your progression. But resetting the atlas every 3 months doesn't really allow for this, even in standard. Now you are just forcing players to run non rewarding content to get back up to the level of rewarding content they were running before

Yeah you have touched on the two basic issues. Seems like map stash issue is what people are angriest about, as it pertains to $$. In standard you don't get a fresh map tab, so you need to either empty out your old map stash (requiring a large amount of empty general stash to temp store converted new maps and huge PITA) or buy a new one.

Larger gameplay issue (for me at least) is map progress reset every 3 months. Old maps are pretty useless; you can't run master missions and they have no effect on shaper/elder influence. You can at least complete your atlas again (except for T16) by completing an old rare/corrupt T16 map (if I couldn't at least do that I probably would have stopped playing already). So you pretty much need to convert old maps 3-1 and your map pool is decimated. You know, the map pool that pretty much POEs entire endgame is based on. For people that want to shape/influence/sextant their atlas in specific ways, that is now blown away.

Count me among the people who think this is just not going to be fixed. I think GGG has made the financial calculation that this is the way to go, and losing players like me is OK as long as majority are happy. I'm actually fine with it; it's their game and they can make money as they see fit. This is not air or water and there are other games out there. But stringing people along like this is on their radar, that's carp.

angry bump

Well .. .

Time + effort = maps

3 months later:

Your time + Your effort + Your maps = We dont care about it(GGG)...


Thanks i've bought map stash tab to keep maps from Betrayal. AT 25/jun/19.. FFS

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Gnbb wrote:

Well .. .

Time + effort = maps

3 months later:

Your time + Your effort + Your maps = We dont care about it(GGG)...

I think it's interesting people haven't paid that much attention on retroactive nerfs on unique items, because basically nerfing items on ground and making those changes affect player collected items is the same as here -GGG not respecting your effort put into the game. Think about it: there is no policy restraining GGG from, say, nerfing headhunter to useless garbage, then making it also affect all the copies of existing headhunters too. I'm not saying I have a headhunter -I don't- but concept wise GGG has done this many times and there is no official policy which would make any such decissions feel coherent with earlier decissions they made with another unique item.

Why some items get their legacy versions while others don't, is beyond my understanding. Therefore hoarding any items in standard is pretty useless, last time they just decided to keep no legacy version of poet's pen which of course coincidentally broke my poet's pen dual wield build in SSF. Trying to replace it would be a pain if I in fact played PoE these days, a much bigger pain than just junking all the maps in my stash.

Now, I can see the need for those changes on items (though honestly, current crafted rares to me seems to be a much bigger balance problem than any of the uniques, but, oh well). What I really dislike is how a standard player isn't compensated any way for his effort put into the game. Mind you, if it wasn't such a grindy game I could see it, but people really, really grinded for that gear. Seeing it absolutely destroyed and left no legacy version either is one of those big demotivational factors which were played out on me taking a long break from the game. I just feel little sense to collect anything in PoE, and I generally love hoarding uniques in ARPGs.