Don't nerf Syndicate encounters

Crab power = aspect of the crab?

If so, most underrated aspect but people still go for the deeps ones. Because they're conditioned to not go for defenses aside front the cheapest investment (ie flask, ec+ic) couple with high pool and sustain.

The only thing is you kinda have to pair it with block or dodge or invest heavy in the uniques from the set. Otherwise in a fight where you will eat hits those stacks will not have time to regain.

it was this, specifically (from my delve build).

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robmafia wrote:

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SaiyanZ wrote:

For you maybe as you're ignorant. Others will read this and see the points clearly. This is a public forum. Can take a horse to the water but can't make him drink.

lolz

btw - crab power, alone, has more phys mitigation than his entire build.

Yeah dude, everyone can use that and give up a few thousand es or 2k life.

For amusement let's see how you would mitigate that hit he took with items/pathing that are easily accessible to most builds.

Based on the one-shot and his defenses, it was at least a 12k phys + 12k lightning damage hit.

lolz @ your math.

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robmafia wrote:

lolz @ your math.

If the math is wrong go work go out what the damage was and provide us with your magical insight on defenses. We don't know what the damage was exactly so erring on the slightly higher side is fine as it was a one-shot.


This will put an end to your trolling once and for all when you see it can't be mitigated easily.

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SaiyanZ wrote:

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robmafia wrote:

lolz @ your math.

If the math is wrong go work go out what the damage was and provide us with your magical insight on defenses. We don't know what the damage was exactly so erring on the slightly higher side is fine as it was a one-shot.


This will put an end to your trolling once and for all when you see it can't be mitigated easily.

"trolling" - verb

stating facts on this forum


i thought that getting pwned by pre-nerf syndicate in that t15 were supposed to put an end to my "trolling."

fact:

6400 hp with 82% block, flat phys mitigation, tons of armor, and 77-79 res > 8000 hp with meh defenses.

and it's not even close.

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robmafia wrote:

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SaiyanZ wrote:

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robmafia wrote:

lolz @ your math.

If the math is wrong go work go out what the damage was and provide us with your magical insight on defenses. We don't know what the damage was exactly so erring on the slightly higher side is fine as it was a one-shot.


This will put an end to your trolling once and for all when you see it can't be mitigated easily.

"trolling" - verb

stating facts on this forum


i thought that getting pwned by pre-nerf syndicate in that t15 were supposed to put an end to my "trolling."

fact:

6400 hp with 82% block, flat phys mitigation, tons of armor, and 77-79 res > 8000 hp with meh defenses.

and it's not even close.

That build won't survive the hit he took. That's a fact. Nothing more to say here. Do the math yourself. I can't spoon-feed anymore.

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SaiyanZ wrote:

That build won't survive the hit he took. That's a fact. Nothing more to say here. Do the math yourself. I can't spoon-feed anymore.

That isn't a fact.
By pulling random numbers out of your butt, you could pretend that nothing survives anything .... but it's not a fact.
It is what it is, random numbers pulled out of your butt.

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Fruz wrote:

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SaiyanZ wrote:

That build won't survive the hit he took. That's a fact. Nothing more to say here. Do the math yourself. I can't spoon-feed anymore.

That isn't a fact.
By pulling random numbers out of your butt, you could pretend that nothing survives anything .... but it's not a fact.
It is what it is, random numbers pulled out of your butt.

Dude, you also need to do the calcs.

8.3k hp in one hit.

- He had a basalt and 2 endurance charges up so at least 23% phys mitigation.
- He had a topaz up so at least 80% resistance vs lightning damage. (more defense vs lightning damage than the block/armour build above)
- He also converted some phys to ele as another defense.
- Don't know how much armour but assume none.

So you're looking at around a 10k phys hit and 10k lightning damage in that one-shot as a bare minimum to deplete 8.3k HP. Could have been a fair bit more but we don't know the exact numbers which is why I went with 12k each.

So vs the block/amour build:

High armour doesn't help too much against such large phys hits. The lightning damage alone would have taken away a fair chunk of the 6500hp from block/armour build. (2300hp damage from the lightning alone with a 10k hit assuming the 77% resists above). So the question is whether his remaining 4200HP would be enough to tank a minimum 10k phys hit with all his armour and other phys mitigation. Might just scrape it but this is not about scraping it. He would need about 60% real phys mitigation to survive. People on the top and right of the tree can get nowhere near that amount.


This is all with just one elemental damage mod on a T14 map too. With two elemental mods I doubt any build in the game, even designed to just take that one hit would survive unless they went with 90%+ resistances and full blown phys mitigation. Probably only juggs could do that.



Stay in school guys and don't do drugs.

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SaiyanZ wrote:

This will put an end to your trolling once and for all when you see it can't be mitigated easily.

lolz

when even one's bad math and made up numbers STILL disprove one's own point.

crabs = 30% flat phys
basalt = 15% flat phys

45% without even taking armor (fuckton) into account.

res of 77-79. BEFORE a purity. since this was just 1 ele, i would have ran purity of lightning. which brings it from 78 to 82. this also excludes a topaz.

MATHS.

given your wonky damage numbers, 1800 lt dmg.
given your wonky damage numbers, 5500 phys.

all my armor needed to mitigate is a mere 900 dmg - less than 10% of the hit.

only ~10k armor is needed to survive.

ez. even without using a topaz/granite.

like i said, my build needed successive (big) hits to die.

additionally, i used a corrupted implicit reducing extra crit damage taken by 50%. if the hit was a crit, that is.

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SaiyanZ wrote:

Stay in school guys and don't do drugs.

which was it? did you drop out or have you been using?