Stop the cheat death logout exploit

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SicNNasty wrote:

I suppose the main question is, does it really matter what other players are doing?

*Alt+F4's out of the conversation before the stones hit him in the head*

And I would answer generally it should not, but if you think that other players' actions are causing a reaction from GGG that is detrimental to yourself, then some grumbling is acceptable.

(and it appears that you need to be quicker on the Alt+F4 I guess)

I don't say your idea is bad, i will just point that you wanna change a part of the game wich some in the game use/enjoy since even before Path of Exile was an idea in a dev head.
It exists since Diablo 2 and it has been purposely added in Path of Exile.

Many people play the game this way and just don't want the game to be changed.

I honestly think your idea is nice, for another game mode (or another game).
Adding a new game mode implies lots of work, so even that is a sweet dream.

Well that's what i think, might be wrong, good luck if you don't agree.

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DmanDavid wrote:

GGG,

I'd like to suggest adding in an anti combat logout system to the game. The reason I am suggesting this is because players are exploiting logging out during fighting when they are about to die. This is more exploited in HC leagues and when players reach level 90 and above on softcore to not lose the exp from the exp death penalty. Logging out doesnt have any negative affect on the player and when they log back in they log in safely at an encampment. Its like gaining unlimited lives where it was never meant to happen. HC league should be exactly that HC with one life only and no chances to get out of a death. This exploit is ruining how this game was meant to be played. So please, please do something about the logout exploit.

Thanks.

why do you care?
it does not hurt you personally in playing the game, nor does it hinder you personally in any way to play this game.
so again why do you care?

crying for the sake of crying?

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

If you (or game developer) would felt, that using a portal scroll also provides too easy escape, it could be changed as well. For example, in combat, few seconds casting time could be added to using portal scroll. If you endure that - then you deserve the right to escape from combat (cause you were a sitting duck during those few seconds).

Yes, of course, if the balancing would go with it, I would likely have no problem with it at all.

But I bet many QQers about the log-out "lack" of timer would.

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

Why DoTA2 almost never experiences such issues?
As game developer, If you cant afford great connection for your fellow players, you dont have any right to design your game in the way PoE is designed (death penalty, hardcore, etc, etc). It's just a common sense.

Nonsense.
PoE works for people with goods, and people with bad connections, and it WORKS.
You disagree with this ? Fine, just understand that you are not the majority, and that any obnoxious crap thrown in the name of fighting again logging out (and there has already been quite a lot in this thread already) won't be any legitimate (not implying that you're doing it).

And you calling something "crappy design" does not make it true either.
You're probably barely playing the game at the moment anyway, why should GGG listen to you ?

Oh man this debate is still going on? I suppose it will be til the end of PoE.

- Toss popcorn bag and enters the melee -

Is one truly hardcore for having to rely on alt-f4 to play HC? I don't think I would consider it Hardcore at that point.

" Just the other day I was driving home doing 220 km/h on the highway. Police were soon on my tail - I didn't really want a ticket or to get arrested, so I just alt f4'd. That'll teach em, I'm freekin Hardcore."

You can't just magically alt f4 from real life problems - not sure how people see this a legit way of playing the game. Isn't that what HC is about ? Only 1 life? Only 1 shot at things.

Oh a pack w/ (insert mod that would kill me)
Alt-f4
New map

Seems really Hardcore to me.


Chicken Hack from Diablo 2 is pretty much what it is. Force quit your game for you when your ~25% hp (or whatever you set it too)
D3 at least had a 10 second timer.

Also hear people macroing alt-f4 to mouse buttons and such.

I'm freekin hardcore.


I don't play HC, (servers aren't good enough for it imo)
Chances are, you're not good enough for it either. Scummy alt-f4'r

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PoE works for people with goods, and people with bad connections, and it WORKS.
You disagree with this ? Fine, just understand that you are not the majority

Pretty sure its commonly agreed PoE is poorly optimized. Hard enough time playing end game on NON-HC without lag spikes or connection issues.

Show me 1 HC player that is playing with "bad" internet connection.

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And you calling something "crappy design" does not make it true either.
You're probably barely playing the game at the moment anyway, why should GGG listen to you ?

Omg someone with a different opinion than mine.
ATTACK KILL DESTROY - only MY opinion matters
Also it doesn't make it untrue. Glass half full/half empty

GGG listens? You know devs first hand? You really shouldn't speak on the behalf of companies/parties you prob know nothing about aside from the product you consume.


You sound like the rest of the salty garbage alt f4 HC players

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kantermoose wrote:

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HC player need the logout-macro at the moment because the game is a literal broken mess, there's more unfair situations then you can count on. HC is meant to have a 'perfect' play, not an RNG play.

To solve this GGG needs to fix their game finally, 'simple' as that.

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HC player need the logout-macro at the moment because the game is a literal broken mess, there's more unfair situations then you can count on. HC is meant to have a 'perfect' play, not an RNG play.

To solve this GGG needs to fix their game finally, 'simple' as that.

Or rename it ALT F4 mode and they don't have to change anything.

I wouldn't call it a need. Id say its crutch you have used for too long and have become too reliant on.

Nothing forces you to alt f4. You just don't want to die/lose your HC char due to the poor choices you made (bad map mods, etc)

Which at the altf4 point negates being "Hardcore" in its truest sense.


Any direct quotes from GGG stating its an intended mechanic?

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kantermoose wrote:

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You managed to completely miss the points.


- PoE's bad optimization is mostly client-side, and it has very little to do with internet connections.
With a 6 sec logout timer, many cases of unexpected disconnection would kill players, period.

Game crashes add up to that, but that is not the only thing.

- saying "X is Y" without anything to actually back it up will not make it true, period.
Saying some obnixious **** like "ATTACK KILL DESTROY - only MY opinion matters" like you just did is not going to help you get anywhere, it is not going to help you be credible or actually have any argument.

- Do you seriously think that GGG is targetting players who don't play the game anymore ?
Are you serious ? Or are you just trying to be toxic ? Oo


And yes, Chris mentioned it in several podcasts a long time ago, I think he said himself that he was using it but I'm not completely sure about it.


PS : I know it's ironic, but if somebody sounds salty here, it's definitely you LOL.

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Fruz wrote:

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kantermoose wrote:

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You managed to completely miss the points.


- PoE's bad optimization is mostly client-side, and it has very little to do with internet connections.
With a 6 sec logout timer, many cases of unexpected disconnection would kill players, period.

Game crashes add up to that, but that is not the only thing.

- saying "X is Y" without anything to actually back it up will not make it true, period.
Saying some obnixious **** like "ATTACK KILL DESTROY - only MY opinion matters" like you just did is not going to help you get anywhere, it is not going to help you be credible or actually have any argument.

- Do you seriously think that GGG is targetting players who don't play the game anymore ?
Are you serious ? Or are you just trying to be toxic ? Oo


And yes, Chris mentioned it in several podcasts a long time ago, I think he said himself that he was using it but I'm not completely sure about it.


PS : I know it's ironic, but if somebody sounds salty here, it's definitely you LOL.

You may want to invest in a sarcasm detector. Speaking of missing the point....

Seeing as how it wasn't targeted at anyone but here comes the white knights to save the day - said no one. If only we could up your intelligence like in PoE!! (see now thats a direct attack)