Poe already scraped the infinite dungeon ... hears why

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Thror2k5 wrote:

This is why a LEAGUE is a great place to try it out. If it actually kills build diversity, then it doesnt get added to the main game. OR, they nerf the 1-3 builds that are obviously miles ahead (because now we have actual data that shows what is ahead), Buff some under performers, and now we have 12+ builds that can all go deep into the mines.

ITS JUST A LEAGUE. it isnt forever. RIP BESTIARY

Yeah, I think it's an interesting idea and I'm definitely interested in watching streamers push this leaderboard.

I always get bored mapping for some reason, I wish obtaining maps was easier so I spent more time in the ones i want, but I may try to dedicate myself next league to actually MFing for a second character to try to push the dungeon(not competitively).

I can see the case where the endless dungeons should require tankier builds that will not be as efficient as farming maps and I think that's fine. Make them about epeen leaderboards rather than meta farming.

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Don't play a shit build

I don't agree with the "infinite dungeon is meant for only one build" claims. Isn't your clear speed gated by that cart? Yes it moves a bit faster when you run ahead, but not remotely close to the speed people can clear maps. Doesn't an ever increasing difficulty (without a timer like greater rifts) reward slower moving super tanky builds too? It might take them longer to get to deeper levels, but they might be able to progress farther if the goal is leaderboard progression.

To the people complaining about lack of build diversity in path... its a fucking hack and slash game. There isn't "build diversity" in diablo 3, or any other solo play hack and slash. You kill shit, and get loot which is the ENTIRE goal of EVERY class. Some do it with blue particle effects, and some do it with fiery explosions, with the same end result. Even if there are lots of great builds for delves, there is always going to be a "Best" one which all the hardcore grinders will play to the best effect (which there is nothing wrong with). Ask GGG to make a sub leaderboard for each class and ascendancy so that regardless of what build you play, you can compete against similar classes.

I think at a glance it looks like it could be the most amazing content this game has ever added and will, for the first time in ages, actually give purpose back to making good builds and getting good gear, while adding a sense of exploration and existing in an actual world that we have been really lacking.

The idea will fail since escorts will slow down clear speed.
Actually, escorts are even worse then timers.
An escort forces you to progress at a given speed.
If you are too slow, you fail, and if you want to go faster, you fail either.

GGG knows that and put an one-shot-mechanic to force all players to play the escorts.
This league is another nail in the coffin.

I will skip the league anyway and play standard. Leagues are not my cup of tea. They are just rushing through gated content.

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FCK42 wrote:

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Don't play a shit build

Here's the thing, I_NO: some people (me included) intentionally play what you refer to as "shit builds". Why? To try new stuff. To not just use one click to clear the entire screen. Sometimes I had a LOT more fun running nothing but low tier maps with a whacky build than I had with stronger, but much more simple (read: min-maxed) builds in higher content. That's just how it works for some.
And heck, if I can't delve all that deep then who cares, I can just explore the shallow parts of the mine for all eternity.

I_NO has already established how detached she is from us "normies"

She's simply out of our league

Transcendent

Don't bother with her, she's in a better place now

Build diversity is a fragile little thing. Incursion killed also. Every new piece of content kills it every league. Flavor of the month is the same thing.

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Mr_Bill wrote:

Build diversity is a fragile little thing. Incursion killed also. Every new piece of content kills it every league. Flavor of the month is the same thing.

This.
You meant Bullshit of the Week, isn't it? ;-)

One thing is certain: An "endless" mechanic like this, will distinguish the good from the bad when it comes to builds. The powercreep made the "illusion"(in lack of better words) of build diversity; of course a lot of builds are viable, when the numbers are through the roof. The Delve league will act as a funnel, and we end up with "pushing builds", like D3, where - again - only a handful of builds will be competitive. Everything that's endless will act as a funnel, and only the most powerful will prevail - and we have our self what you guys will refer to as a "Delve META" or "Delve builds".

This is inevitable. And interesting. I think I may like it.

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Phrazz wrote:

One thing is certain: An "endless" mechanic like this, will distinguish the good from the bad when it comes to builds. The powercreep made the "illusion"(in lack of better words) of build diversity; of course a lot of builds are viable, when the numbers are through the roof. The Delve league will act as a funnel, and we end up with "pushing builds", like D3, where - again - only a handful of builds will be competitive. Everything that's endless will act as a funnel, and only the most powerful will prevail - and we have our self what you guys will refer to as a "Delve META" or "Delve builds".

This is inevitable. And interesting. I think I may like it.

That is pretty much my impression too (and of many others).
Good for you, if you may like it. I probably will not, because that made me quit D3.
Let's hope the best.