There's no good ARPG's vs poe.

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Kasapnica wrote:

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Isindel wrote:

Waiting room for LostArk.

Unless it becomes pay to win.

Waiting room for POE2:Return Of P-Link Devourers.

Korean online games in the west in a nutshell.

1:Great animations,impactful and engaging combat.
2:Extreme hype prior to release.
3:Servers barely have space to get in once it releases.
4:Things normalize over a week or so.
5:People start to notice the grind.
6:people notice some "shady" things in the market.
7:The drama begins,"ITS NOT P2W,YOU CAN FARM IT ANYWAY",meaning grind for 3 years or pay 5 dollars,for a CHANCE of progress,or you may not even be invited for content.
8:Many start to leave,PvP and PvE balance doesn't exist once end game is reached,patches are EXTREMELY slow. Depending on these patches certain classes wont be invited for anything for months,since the difference in power is extreme.
9:Game start to die,in a final attempt to bring players back,the content is heavily nerfed.
10:End game is impossible without investing money,nor players are prepared for it since getting to that point is exceptionally easy.
11:Players leave again.
12:Heavy P2W is introduced.
13:Fanboys are the only thing that remain,preaching how the game is great and no P2W at all,yet if you start playing you will hit a pay wall if you want to do end game,or no one is going to invite you.
14:Game is dead.
15:Next Korean game on the Horizon.The cycle starts again.

This happened with every single Korean online game ever to come to the west,don't get excited.

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鬼殺し wrote:

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Phaeded wrote:

I keep wanting to try Grim Dawn but I hate paying for games and then being disappointed. That's the only thing that's kept me from giving it a go.

Maybe wait for a sale or watch some videos. You can definitely get a strong idea of the game from videos alone. I don't think anyone who enjoys ARPGs with complex itemisation and skill systems would be disappointed by Grim Dawn. I wouldn't let the existence of a price tag be the deciding factor for what I think is the best, most authentic ARPG around right now.

OTOH maybe PoE has spoiled you there. There are lots of systems and mechanics in PoE that, regardless of how a person feels about the game otherwise, are very easy to take for granted and their absence in other games can be tough to reconcile. Money, for example. Grim Dawn has money, and it's very useful in a lot of situations. PoE, well, unless you want to compare GD's in-game npc shops with PoE's out-of-game trade indexing, it's a whole lot less about shopping and more about finding/crafting.

At any rate, GD is a great ARPG that just cleaves a little too close to the formula for my likes.

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Slaanesh69 wrote:

MU Legends comes out in a couple of days. It has been mildly on my radar for a while. I will try it out, but same skepticisms as above apply.