Path of Exile - ProjectPT Was Right Expansion

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

I minimally care about the game anymore, too much what is good is destroyed forever, most disturbing of them being global chat extreme censorship and overmodding on the forums for me.

well, have you been here when bex and rachel cleaned the forum, massively driving people to reddit and, in case of bex, also more or less moved there. it's been much worse. even i managed to get a forum temp ban, didn't have to try hard though.

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

following and discussing what's up but even a new expansion is very unlikely to rekindle my interest but not impossible.

what do you think is left of their design space after offering their holy 6 linked cow for just finding 3 red beasts?

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

I am very sure that going towards a direction of a cookie clicker + slot machine is not something that most of the players want.

they tried to apply their complicated itemisation tech to monsters and it's revolutionary. in all directions. i'm still not sure if i like consulting a cheat sheet before fighting a red monster.

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

Friday's peak there were 48K active players

steam charts? is that the player base with 10 minutes attention span per game on average? where 80% of the players failed at brutus?

well, it used to be that way, dunno if it's still the case.

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鬼殺し wrote:

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

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Head_Less wrote:

few weeks ago Op was making fun of people complaining about poe.

A few weeks ago the league wasn't out. People who judge content before it's out are far worse than white knights and should be made fun of.

Even though I was right, and your huge rant proves it.

(apologies for low effort response. on my tablet just after a metal gig. might elab later but probably not. ive said enough about bestiary and i dont or care who projectpt is.)

You were right about what?

(No sweat dawg)

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vio wrote:

well, have you been here when bex and rachel cleaned the forum, massively driving people to reddit and, in case of bex, also more or less moved there. it's been much worse. even i managed to get a forum temp ban, didn't have to try hard though.

Not sure of the far beyond past but when I joined Path of Exile I saw how I could finally talk like a human being with others in a video game and was excited about it. This is not possible anymore.

Regarding design: I don't have the numbers or a huge dev team behind me but I'm not specifically talking about Bestiary, I am talking about the changes on the core game. Reverting these is a beginning but it's a beginning that will never happen.

Complication: Again, no need to make things more complicated or make complex mechanics, allowing the tools that were available previously is enough. The problem is that you cannot use any of the tools until you have completed a massive grind on the Atlas and have reached a specific level, making them as good as unreachable. I've never had 100+ Atlas although I have 1500+ hours and over 50 self farmed Shaper kills because I really can't be bothered buying hundreds of maps, even though I easily trade more than 95% of the players and utilize all tools / possibilities.

Steam charts: As mentioned in the first post. It's easiest to see the nolifers / hardcore gamers population by checking the lowest population point of the day which has dropped more than the overall population. Also we can safely assume that mostly more invested players use the standalone client. You may dispute this idea but it does make sense to me.

ProjectPT hated PoE for becoming casual. He hated powercreep and speed meta. Your rant has little relation to PT's reasons for quitting the game; I'm pretty sure he'd be against the "give us moar meeps, give us moar currenziesss" mentality, as he once stated he plays the game for the grind.

As far as map drop rates go. I don't get the complaints. Just last night I ran 20+ maps of t13 and above consecutively, and I still got well over 10 maps over t13 in stash for the next session.

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Anonymous1749704 wrote:

ProjectPT hated PoE for becoming casual. He hated powercreep and speed meta. Your rant has little relation to PT's reasons for quitting the game; I'm pretty sure he'd be against the "give us moar meeps, give us moar currenziesss" mentality, as he once stated he plays the game for the grind.

As far as map drop rates go. I don't get the complaints. Just last night I ran 20+ maps of t13 and above consecutively, and I still got well over 10 maps over t13 in stash for the next session.

PT was for consistency and higher drop rates but at a cost. He wanted a challenging game.

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Anonymous1749704 wrote:

ProjectPT hated PoE for becoming casual. He hated powercreep and speed meta. Your rant has little relation to PT's reasons for quitting the game; I'm pretty sure he'd be against the "give us moar meeps, give us moar currenziesss" mentality, as he once stated he plays the game for the grind.

As far as map drop rates go. I don't get the complaints. Just last night I ran 20+ maps of t13 and above consecutively, and I still got well over 10 maps over t13 in stash for the next session.

The title is more like meme along the lines of GGG pulling questionable design choices that make you want to quit the game. I know that it's not the most accurate one to choose but the only popular one regarding it.

Regarding drop rates, I heard that yellow beasts drop more stuff than bosses now and they've probably ninja buffed some other sources as well. There is very strong evidence everywhere how little currency and maps have been / are available. A few pages back in the General Discussion and top upvoted posts in Reddit the past month prove it. I'm personally too jaded from testing constantly if it has got better or not to a level where I've just given up.
Even if there are changes and buffs NOW, the nerfs have been an intentional design choice and will be a trend in the future that I'm not willing to get surprised by again.

I know when the game will get good once again - once they start using other methods for causing addiction, smartest choice being skill. As long as they keep pumping out / forcing RNG related content, the game will get more and more dumbed down.

Another thing people in this thread are getting wrong. Currency drop rates don't matter to people. Sure more currency makes wealth less rng a little but its non shitty item drop rates that matter.

The items prices are relative to the quantity of currency drops.


Put plainly if 100 kaoms drop a day vs 1 it matters. If no chaos drops then you would see them for either 10 alc (if 100 dropped) or 1000 if 1 dropped since no chaos dropped.

More currency just creates inflation more drops make things cheaper.

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Zalhan2 wrote:

Another thing people in this thread are getting wrong. Currency drop rates don't matter to people. Sure more currency makes wealth less rng a little but its non shitty item drop rates that matter.

The items prices are relative to the quantity of currency drops.


Put plainly if 100 kaoms drop a day vs 1 it matters. If no chaos drops then you would see them for either 10 alc (if 100 dropped) or 1000 if 1 dropped since no chaos dropped.

More currency just creates inflation more drops make things cheaper.

That is where you're wrong. The game has built in fixed price currency sinks. Your items value is irrelevant to everything else.

> If you get 2x less currency than before then you greatly can't use it to reroll or buff maps in any way
> You can't recraft masters mods or use them at all
> You can't craft items yourself because people pick up more rares and mods have a weighted value of stats being rolled to them
> People use currency more as a currency, not a tool

The list goes on and is a quite complex.

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Wogget wrote:

Order of White Knights Unite!
#GGG did nothing wrong

lol so that's how they look. even the horse is white.

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鬼殺し wrote:

And I was right. About something Id never want to be right about.

I'll load the game up come 3.3 but not until then. Patching up to 3.2 is a waste of my precious Aussie bandwidth.

Regarding being right or wrong about it. There was also a chance of it being a success and there's no reason to run a chance of making a fool out of yourself for no reason.

[Removed by Support]

"based on player feedback being 110% negative we have decided bestiary league will be a great addition to the core game but we have made it zana 8 and it costs 5exalts"