youve trashed the game

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robmafia wrote:





...so like, abyssal jewels and that belt (again)? *facepalm*



No one's talking about league items but you. This thread is specifically about power creep introduced by elder/shaper items which are a part of the expansion and permanent. Any league item deemed to power just gets removed.

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robmafia wrote:





...so like, abyssal jewels and that belt (again)? *facepalm*



No one's talking about league items but you. This thread is specifically about power creep introduced by elder/shaper items which are a part of the expansion and permanent. Any league item deemed to power just gets removed.


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see, that's where you're wrong. you keep saying that. but you apparently didn't read most of this thread...

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Snorkle_uk wrote:





I feel bad for the abyss design guys. We were looking at the belt before launch saying well, if I use this belt Ill have 0.3% more life and 0.7% more dps than any other belt option, and thats a bit fucked. Whoever designed that has gone way too far, its now the bis belt, its too powerful. Poor dave in the abyss design room is getting this stick for his belt from the community that didnt even provide a 1% difference, thats the hairline of balance players are giving a shit about.

Meanwhile dougal and fred in the WftA balance room have their underpants on their heads, straws up their nose and theyre shitting in their hands and rubbing it on the walls. Oh fred I just made 2 items and if you use them together you get 400% more damage!!! LEL!!!!!! LEL!!!!!!!! UUGHHHHH LOL!!!!!!






This is Snorkles exact quote. He was never complaining about how Abyss items were overpowered; he's saying how the community was losing their shit over minuscule increases from the Abyss belt to the supposed overpowered nature of Elder/Shaper items. Again, reading comprehension.
holy crap, this again.

1. snorkle isn't god, this thread isn't about snorkle.
2. the thread is about power creep
3. the first page is allllll about power creep
4. numerous people mentioned abyss items
5. even snorkle mentioned abyss items

your claim is false. even that mostly irrelevant quote of snorkle's that you just pasted refutes your claim.

power creep isn't limited to elder/shaper items. and it's sure not limited to elder/shaper weapons.

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robmafia wrote:
holy crap, this again.

1. snorkle isn't god, this thread isn't about snorkle.
2. the thread is about power creep
3. the first page is allllll about power creep
4. numerous people mentioned abyss items
5. even snorkle mentioned abyss items

your claim is false. even that mostly irrelevant quote of snorkle's that you just pasted refutes your claim.

power creep isn't limited to elder/shaper items. and it's sure not limited to elder/shaper weapons.

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Yeah because his post above specifically talks about how Elder/Shaper items are OP and not how Abyss items are OP. But ok. Keep glossing over shit.


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*facepalm*

completely disregards what power creep means, shifts goalposts REPEATEDLY as if it's a very narrow concept that only applies to shaper/elder weapons, and has the audacity to speak of reading comprehension and accuse me of not admitting to being wrong (lolwut? wrong about what?)


not so fun fact: i am not snorkle. my arguments/position is my own.

fun fact: at no point in this mess was i wrong.

funner fact: you won't cite one thing i was wrong about, because there's literally not one thing here you could cite.
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robmafia wrote:
*facepalm*

completely disregards what power creep means, shifts goalposts REPEATEDLY as if it's a very narrow concept that only applies to shaper/elder weapons, and has the audacity to speak of reading comprehension and accuse me of not admitting to being wrong (lolwut? wrong about what?)

fun fact: at no point in this mess was i wrong.

funner fact: you won't cite one thing i was wrong about, because there's literally not one thing here you could cite.



Fun Fact : The reason why we are talking about shaper/elder items is because they are part of the expansion and thus permanent additions to the game.

Fun Fact 2 : You don't even play the game, so why you even try talk about balance is beyond me

Fun Fact 3 : You've been proven wrong multiple times, because at no point did anyone else talk about Abyss items being overpowered except you

Fun Fact 4 : You still haven't shown me Elder/Shaper items that are insanely broken and could outdo mirror gear.
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allbusiness wrote:
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robmafia wrote:
*facepalm*

completely disregards what power creep means, shifts goalposts REPEATEDLY as if it's a very narrow concept that only applies to shaper/elder weapons, and has the audacity to speak of reading comprehension and accuse me of not admitting to being wrong (lolwut? wrong about what?)

fun fact: at no point in this mess was i wrong.

funner fact: you won't cite one thing i was wrong about, because there's literally not one thing here you could cite.



Fun Fact : The reason why we are talking about shaper/elder items is because they are part of the expansion and thus permanent additions to the game.

Fun Fact 2 : You don't even play the game, so why you even try talk about balance is beyond me

Fun Fact 3 : You've been proven wrong multiple times, because at no point did anyone else talk about Abyss items being overpowered except you

Fun Fact 4 : You still haven't shown me Elder/Shaper items that are insanely broken and could outdo mirror gear.


even now, you shift goalposts. it's hilarious. hahaha.

power creep -> elder/shaper items -> elder/shaper weapons -> now must be better than brood twine (your example)

claimed no one mentioned abyss -> no one said they were OP but me -> ____________________

what's that blank going to be when you realize you're wrong (again) and backpedal into a new goalshift?
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robmafia wrote:


even now, you shift goalposts. it's hilarious. hahaha.

power creep -> elder/shaper items -> elder/shaper weapons -> now must be better than brood twine (your example)

claimed no one mentioned abyss -> no one said they were OP but me -> ____________________

what's that blank going to be when you realize you're wrong (again) and backpedal into a new goalshift?



When are you going to just admit you're wrong? Snorkle's quote 100% proved that he was talking about Elder/Shaper items being overpowered and not Abyss items overpowered. No where else did anyone talk about Abyss items being overpowered. This entire thread is about how Elder/Shaper items brought power creep to the base of the game; Abyss items are league specific and can be easily removed. You cannot easily remove something that is added as a base portion of the game.


Again, you are so blinded by your condescending attitude about being right that you can't even see that no one else was talking about Abyss items but you. You haven't provided any quotes to prove your point that other people were talking about Abyss items, yet I've proven that this thread was specifically about Elder/Shaper items.
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Snorkle_uk wrote:


Abyss jewels, you can buy 1c crit attack 4 stat jewels all day right?


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NeroNoah wrote:
While I'm not angry like you, Snorkle_uk, I find the level of power creep this expansion somewhat disgusting. Between the new belt base and elder/shaper mods, GGG kind of made obsolete most items already in the game (specially uniques like Bringer of the Rain).

Power creep is somewhat inevitable, and a tool if used correctly but this is truly absurd. There is no real need for this amount of power, specially because it lacks a drawback like some of the old, powerful items. One the sugar high dissapears only regret will remain.

Whoever is responsible for this should be ashamed.


wow, that took like... seconds.

there definitely aren't more posts, too. /s
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