Is Vaal Pact a cheese mechanic?

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http://www.strawpoll.me/14230438

definition of cheese: Cheap mechanic, mechanic that exploits a design flaw, mechanic that unintendedly circumvents intended challenges

Nope. The problem is that we can scale leech by damage, and we can scale damage through the roof. There's no trade off. In past games, there was a distinct "cost" to developing a character that relies heavily on leech.

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adghar wrote:

hi everyone im filling in for Sexcalibre today

http://www.strawpoll.me/14230438

definition of cheese: Cheap mechanic, mechanic that exploits a design flaw, mechanic that unintendedly circumvents intended challenges

No. You will die anyway.

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adghar wrote:

hi everyone im filling in for Sexcalibre today

reaction meme required.

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Nephalim wrote:

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adghar wrote:

hi everyone im filling in for Sexcalibre today

reaction meme required.

Its more like hot pepper in eyes of everyone after CI nerf

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Shagsbeard wrote:

The problem is that we can scale leech by damage, and we can scale damage through the roof. There's no trade off.

There is one trade off - no regen. That's why all that VPers are complaining all the time about ascendancies, traps and labyrinth farming.

You misunderstood. There's no drawback to having leech. You get more leech when ever you get more damage. It's a bonus on a bonus. Vaal Pact is just a modification of the problem. Leech itself is too powerful because it scales with something you're already trying to scale up.

DP makes it even worse, because that damage scales on max life. So we're getting a bonus on a bonus on a bonus when ever we take a life node. That's the issue.

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Masharab wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

The problem is that we can scale leech by damage, and we can scale damage through the roof. There's no trade off.

There is one trade off - no regen. That's why all that VPers are complaining all the time about ascendancies, traps and labyrinth farming.

we've found our perfect VP nerf boys and girls, Lab traps in Shaper's Realm + Guardians' maps

"Path of Exile players are used to being able to solve their problems with violence, so these traps present an interesting new challenge." -Chris, paraphrased

Honestly, I decided to finally give VP a shot with a berserker I made recently. I have to say that I absolutely hate it, and if feels disabling. My experience will likely be different than that of others, but I play with a 700-900ms ping, so DoTs can be extremely deadly for me. When I start taking a heavy bleed or something, I won't even know it for nearly a second.

So yeah, definitely prefer to regen about 700+ hp/sec.