the fall of oriath LABYRINTH

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MECHanokl wrote:

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Powderoff wrote:

I hope lab gets harder. /grabspopcorn

12 trials for each, two times larger, 5 izaro fights, traps during each fight (with more of them on each arena). If you die or leave the area for any reason including dc, you lose a level and all ascendancy points that you had previously. Everytime you touch the ascendacy shrine you have a 20% chance of randomly dying (you are considered not worthy after all). Everytime you want to go to atziri or shaper, you have to "earn the right to it first" by killing uber izaro.

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BlaqWolf wrote:

Nope, Lab is still there.

But with the removal of difficulty levels I am curious to see how they're going to handle 4 different difficulties of lab.

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Plaguetongue1 wrote:

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BlaqWolf wrote:

Nope, Lab is still there.

But with the removal of difficulty levels I am curious to see how they're going to handle 4 different difficulties of lab.

spoiler alert

Spoiler

you can teleport to lab from a waypoint like you enter hideout, you can then select what difficulty you want to enter, to gain access to cruel lab you need to do 3 trials in act 6-7, so i guess it is 3 more trials in act 8 to unlock merciless lab, and the same with uber lab you need to do map trials.

you enter lab in act3 as usual and pick dificulty in the staging area

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DRAGONxNOGARD wrote:

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Plaguetongue1 wrote:

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BlaqWolf wrote:

Nope, Lab is still there.

But with the removal of difficulty levels I am curious to see how they're going to handle 4 different difficulties of lab.

spoiler alert

Spoiler

you can teleport to lab from a waypoint like you enter hideout, you can then select what difficulty you want to enter, to gain access to cruel lab you need to do 3 trials in act 6-7, so i guess it is 3 more trials in act 8 to unlock merciless lab, and the same with uber lab you need to do map trials.

you enter lab in act3 as usual and pick dificulty in the staging area

and wehn i die in lab can use portal scroll as backup and return to lab?

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Shagsbeard wrote:

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1453R wrote:

How does it Ruin Your Entire Playstyle(C)

I played games for the last 20+ years HC solo SF. Every game. Even Minecraft. It's my chosen playstyle.


I played four characters up to Merci lab only to have them trounced by Izzy. No way I could learn the fight. It was over before I could even figure out what was going on. Way out of tune. Takes about a week for me to get a character to that level. Having it trashed without any chance to learn from it was maddening.

So I had to quit playing HC. That was huge for me. I regret it to this day... I should have simply quit playing all together. I went back to try HC again with Legacy and was fucked by bad habits developed because of the lab. It ruined HC for me.

I hate it.

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1453R wrote:

Here's my question, then.

Every time I see complaints about the Labyrinth, they're in the vein of "I die when my connection hiccups in the middle of a trap gauntlet! FUCK THE LABYRINTH!", or "this takes more time to do than one single map and thus breaks my speedclear rotations for the day! FUCK THE LABYRINTH!", or "this isn't completely identical to the endgame map grind! FUCK THE LABYRINTH!"

I never really see people who dislike design decisions with the Labyrinth, beyond protesting the one-life approach and how that can be disruptive and shocking to players who're used to Standard leagues and being able to face-smash for progress if they have to. Instead, all the complaints about the Labyrinth essentially boil down to "this isn't mapping SO I HATE IT! I shouldn't have to do it; GGG, take ALL the rewards out of the Labyrinth and put them in the normal game so I can get them by Vaal Cheeseclearing Shaped Strands!"