Development Manifesto: Changes to the Labyrinth

Expecting more impactful manifestos to come :)
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So disappointed.

I was expecting GGG would announce Ascendancy was no longer part of Lab...but nooo they have made it worse.
Ascension tied to Lab is the worst thing GGG has done...apart from GGG's philosophy on Trading. Oh and Gambling Loot boxes. And selling out to tencent.

I used to love GGG. I supported to ensure GGG remained independent, now I just wish I could get my money back. -_-
This honestly makes me wish there was a single player game client i could play solo forever without updating to this patch. Love the game so, so much as is... this is a huge blow
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Chameleon wrote:
So disappointed.

I was expecting GGG would announce Ascendancy was no longer part of Lab...but nooo they have made it worse.


How, exactly, is reducing the number of trials, making parts shorter, and adding a waypoint making it worse?
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oh no still this f.... lab aargh
STOP THIS STUPID LABYRINTH
PEOPLE RUN LAB IS FOR THE REWARD BUT NOONE WOULD EVER ENJOY THAT
PLS DONT TORTURE YOUR PLAYER ANYMORE
YOU MAKE A BAD DESIGN AND NOW YOU HAVE TO FACE THE MUSIC
What I don't understand is:

3.0 was the perfect time to REMOVE lab or at least limit lab to uber lab and let the rest of the ascendancy points come from boss kills.

The fact that an awesome ARPG has a shitty "pull this lever and avoid that trap" section in a 3D isometric setting where its hard to see what the fuck you are doing and even worse one wrong move will set you back either a full lab (softcore) or a full char (hardcore) is an atrocity.

Normal to Merc lab really needs to go, but until GGG realizes this I will vote with my money.

NO MORE MTX OR PACKS WILL BE BOUGHT until then, I hope a lot of people will follow through because quite frankly it seems like this is the only thing GGG understands as of late.

Also, I can't wait to see how Xbox users will react to the shit fest that is lab, maybe THAT will make GGG think twice.
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shepherddwu wrote:
STOP THIS STUPID LABYRINTH
PEOPLE RUN LAB IS FOR THE REWARD BUT NOONE WOULD EVER ENJOY THAT
PLS DONT TORTURE YOUR PLAYER ANYMORE
YOU MAKE A BAD DESIGN AND NOW YOU HAVE TO FACE THE MUSIC


I, like many others, enjoy the lab. It feels different, it has unique game mechanics and good rewards (enchants+ascendancy+chests)... I think Lab has been a great addition to the game, one of the reasons is that it was not more of the same.

I fail to understand all this hate towards it.. 90% of it can still be run brainlessy with absurd movement speed without paying attention to what is around you, and a single lab run takes you 15-20 mins AT MAX (if you know what you are doing).


This said, I think that now that the game has a single game difficulty 4 different labs are a bit too much, I would have reduced them to 3 (one entry level with easier layout and forgiving traps to let people learn the basics, one "normal" lab and the end game lab)
Last edited by FrancescoV#3462 on May 16, 2017, 5:39:58 AM
I see people are just lazy to do anything these days. They want toys without an effort.
Labyrinth is an optional thing and whoever wants a treasure must deal with it. It´s simple as that.
Hi all, Hi GGG
I'm not so f**king lazy but, I do hate lab and do love ascend. To my mind, lab breaks the lvling rythm and story and it will be worse with a single walkthrough.
When I'm playing, I'm so enjoyed by lvling, getting some stuff, etc and **fuck, I've to run lab, praying GGG gods not to die in the last fight and crying in my mother pants when I get slayed by a skeleton during a freeze**
So, labs sucks to me, I'd prefer ascending to be included in the story, with a similar difficulty but not that mechanics.
Proposal : keep 3 fights with Iza, the only way to access fights would be character lvl (35 - 55 - 75 - 95) and could be rewards of lvling Masters or annexe quests or part of the Lore.
Please don't throw me rotten eggs in the face ;)

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