Donald Trump and US politics

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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Budget_player_cadet wrote:

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Still, the plight of our urban areas, due to decades of Democratic control of municipal government, is regrettable. We could fix a lot with Republican mayors.

I have no idea how you came to this conclusion. It's not like there's a significant correlation between republican control and effective governance of cities. Most cities are run by democrats.

Yes, most major cities are, which is why I said what I said.

I'm not a partisan Republican. However, as a relatively non-partisan person, I believe in a relatively simple concept: if you're not satisfied with governance, stop voting for the incumbent party. Continuing to vote for "muh party" over and over, ignoring results, is enabling crooks in office. Will you be satisfied with the other party? Maybe, maybe not. But for fuck's sake, in major cities like Detroit or Chicago where the municipal corruption is obvious, it's time for regime change. Hell, vote Green for all I care if it'll get the establishment party out of office.

I'm not saying there isn't Republican corruption at municipal levels, but it's generally a much smaller community when it happens. Less of a headline as a result. But yeah, there are some small towns that need to give the Dems a shot, by the same logic.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Kennedy told you so as well as congressperson above and they killed him for it due to bigger bully pulpit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbmdFOvTs

or Gorge Carlin my favorite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dY4WlxO6i0


As far as Obama care and health care in general. Just enforce Sherman and clayton anti trust acts and even minimum wage earners could afford to pay cash like old days. Ive covered this BS earlier in thread but again its deep state that made heath care cost 20% of GDP instead of 5% 40 years ago.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

Spoiler

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Budget_player_cadet wrote:

It's not like there's a significant correlation between republican control and effective governance of cities. Most cities are run by democrats.

Yes, most major cities are, which is why I said what I said.

I'm not a partisan Republican. However, as a relatively non-partisan person, I believe in a relatively simple concept: if you're not satisfied with governance, stop voting for the incumbent party. Continuing to vote for "muh party" over and over, ignoring results, is enabling crooks in office. Will you be satisfied with the other party? Maybe, maybe not. But for fuck's sake, in major cities like Detroit or Chicago where the municipal corruption is obvious, it's time for regime change. Hell, vote Green for all I care if it'll get the establishment party out of office.

I'm not saying there isn't Republican corruption at municipal levels, but it's generally a much smaller community when it happens. Less of a headline as a result. But yeah, there are some small towns that need to give the Dems a shot, by the same logic.

I live in the Orange Curtain (last republican strong hold in Ca) and trust me republicans are currupt as fuck locally. You dont run for a job that pays pennies as a already erudite member of society unless you can get something on back end. In fact Id say local govt is even more currupt than national. We have #1 contractor in city who started with nothing 10 yrs ago then his brother got on city council.hmm I'm sure there is more going on i dont know about but construction is our family business.

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Budget_player_cadet wrote:

Do you know the context of that particular phrase? I'm asking in the hopes that you don't, and you'll stop using it; it's the kind of thing said by incredibly racist people and people who don't know the racist connotation. It's super racist.

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Budget_player_cadet wrote:

Where the fuck is the ignore feature when you need it?

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Budget_player_cadet wrote:

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Head_Less wrote:

no, when they say all lives matter it mean the guys killed at gunpoint by those dindu nuffin hidding being their minority colors also matters.

Do you know the context of that particular phrase? I'm asking in the hopes that you don't, and you'll stop using it; it's the kind of thing said by incredibly racist people and people who don't know the racist connotation. It's super racist.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Minor? Kid was waving a fucking gun at ppl I consider that dangerous antisocial behavior 12 or not.

Rolling up on the scene and immediately opening fire on a child who may or may not have a gun is considerably more antisocial than waving a fucking capgun at people. Would it therefore be justified for me to go to Officer Wilson's house and shoot him? How about if I have a badge? Or would you recognize that as murder, despite how antisocial and "net negative" that person is?

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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Budget_player_cadet wrote:

I have no idea how you came to this conclusion. It's not like there's a significant correlation between republican control and effective governance of cities. Most cities are run by democrats.

Yes, most major cities are, which is why I said what I said.

I'm not a partisan Republican. However, as a relatively non-partisan person, I believe in a relatively simple concept: if you're not satisfied with governance, stop voting for the incumbent party. Continuing to vote for "muh party" over and over, ignoring results, is enabling crooks in office. Will you be satisfied with the other party? Maybe, maybe not. But for fuck's sake, in major cities like Detroit or Chicago where the municipal corruption is obvious, it's time for regime change. Hell, vote Green for all I care if it'll get the establishment party out of office.

I'm not saying there isn't Republican corruption at municipal levels, but it's generally a much smaller community when it happens. Less of a headline as a result. But yeah, there are some small towns that need to give the Dems a shot, by the same logic.

There are, however, cities run by republicans. San Diego comes to mind. Fort Worth. Albuquerque. Are these cities significantly better off than the average Dem-run city? And it's not like these issues vanish even in well-run cities. New York City is, for all intents and purposes, doing quite well for itself. Harlem still isn't a very nice place to be out at night. These are complex problems. I don't see why hiring republicans to solve them would actually fix any of them.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

There is nothing conspiratorial about deep state. it's thousands of ppl swimming in same pool and sharing same predispositions. Like fat no bid military contracts. Endless wars to accelerate fat profit. Endless money from fed for thier fuckups (TARP), etc.

http://www.salon.com/2016/01/05/controlled_by_shadow_government_mike_lofgren_reveals_how_top_u_s_officials_are_at_the_mercy_of_the_deep_state/


Kennedy told you so as well as congressperson above and they killed him for it due to bigger bully pulpit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbmdFOvTs

or Gorge Carlin my favorite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dY4WlxO6i0


As far as Obama care and health care in general. Just enforce Sherman and clayton anti trust acts and even minimum wage earners could afford to pay cash like old days. Ive covered this BS earlier in thread but again its deep state that made heath care cost 20% of GDP instead of 5% 40 years ago.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

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Budget_player_cadet wrote:

Spoiler

There are, however, cities run by republicans. San Diego comes to mind. Fort Worth. Albuquerque. Are these cities significantly better off than the average Dem-run city? And it's not like these issues vanish even in well-run cities. New York City is, for all intents and purposes, doing quite well for itself. Harlem still isn't a very nice place to be out at night. These are complex problems. I don't see why hiring republicans to solve them would actually fix any of them.

The difference between republican and democrat cities is free shit basically. You give free shit you get more freeloaders. Free citizenship (even for criminals with sanctuary cities) get more liabilities.

All goes back to master philosopher Reagan axiom “If you want more of something, subsidize it; if you want less of something, tax it.”

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SnowCrash wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

There is nothing conspiratorial about deep state. it's thousands of ppl swimming in same pool and sharing same predispositions. Like fat no bid military contracts. Endless wars to accelerate fat profit. Endless money from fed for thier fuckups (TARP), etc.

http://www.salon.com/2016/01/05/controlled_by_shadow_government_mike_lofgren_reveals_how_top_u_s_officials_are_at_the_mercy_of_the_deep_state/


Kennedy told you so as well as congressperson above and they killed him for it due to bigger bully pulpit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbmdFOvTs

or Gorge Carlin my favorite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dY4WlxO6i0


As far as Obama care and health care in general. Just enforce Sherman and clayton anti trust acts and even minimum wage earners could afford to pay cash like old days. Ive covered this BS earlier in thread but again its deep state that made heath care cost 20% of GDP instead of 5% 40 years ago.

So basically all your saying is we have greed in government? We don't need a new name for that.

Not sure what you got out of the Kennedy speech. it wasn't about secret societies or anything to do with deep state. It was about the cold war and the hope the press would stop printing things that should be kept secret.

I love Gorge Carlin but it could have been said during George Washington's term and been mostly correct. I don't understand how a Trump supporter could even like Carlin. Trump is copying Reagan with everything and what looks like the corruption to match. Just no knowledge of foreign affairs and the class of Rodney Dangerfield. This is what he would he would think of Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dY4WlxO6i0

40 years ago insurance company's had you by the balls worse then today with health care.