[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

Is there any alternative version of this build if you already have Skyforths? Like dropping Unwavering Stance and putting all those points to crit ? Is it worth it?

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Kelvynn wrote:

5. What about Skyforth?
Too expensive and probably won't happen in a new league. Also you'd have to find resists somewhere else, like 4-mod jewels, and make it even more expensive. This build can already kill everything with a low budget. Skyforth would achieve the same result at a much higher cost. You can buy amazing body armor, gloves and boots, plus all the required uniques, i.e. your whole set of gear, for less than the price of Skyforth.

Yeah i know about what you wrote but I chanced them and just asking if there is way to use them and respec a bit :)

just wanted to ask a noob question
if I get lvl 4 (corrupted) Enlighten ( or even lvl 3 corrupted ), will +1 from the head gear make it lvl5/lvl4??? If not, then is there a diff between lvl 4 corrupted and lvl 3 non corrupted when using this head gear?

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gibtuck wrote:

So are we dropping Auxium now?

In the Essence league it's an easy decision: a 50+ Int crystal belt looks definitely better than Auxium.

The problem with 'dropping' Auxium is that this is not possible outside of this one league. Without the essence crafted mod a crystal belt is not better than Auxium. It can help you with resists until your other gear is good enough, but Auxium is still valuable against chill/freeze.

I'm going to recommend the Int Crystal belt over Auxium but make a note about the availability. Essence crafting is getting very mixed feedback and there is absolutely no guarantee that GGG will add it to the core game in the future. It may end up like the Talismans: obscenely expensive items not really different from the discontinued legacy stuff.

Pro tip: before this league is over, make a lot of Int crystal belts. It's cheap. But you might just make a fortune later.

For those who want them in Standard right now: Essence Hardcore League.

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siema87 wrote:

Yeah i know about what you wrote but I chanced them and just asking if there is way to use them and respec a bit :)

Nope. Still no good. Zero Int, crappy ES, no resists. And no real immunity. Just like getting frozen with Auxium, you DO get stunned occasionally with Skyforth. And you cannot bring a flask for that to a fight where it matters. After a couple of deaths to the Chimera and Mino you will say, 'fuck this, I'll just buy the real stun immunity for 5 skill points and wear real Int boots'.

Sell it and upgrade your whole gear to a new level with that currency instead.

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gruumine wrote:

just wanted to ask a noob question
if I get lvl 4 (corrupted) Enlighten ( or even lvl 3 corrupted ), will +1 from the head gear make it lvl5/lvl4??? If not, then is there a diff between lvl 4 corrupted and lvl 3 non corrupted when using this head gear?

Yes. Enlighten gets +1 level in Black Sun. If you happen to get a lv 4 Enlighten it effectively becomes lv 5 and gives you a little more free mana. Not enough to use another aura though, just a QoL upgrade useful in low/no regen maps.

Oh damn, I completely forgot about it when somebody complained earlier that they only have 200 free mana - and they use a rare helm instead of Black Sun. Having mana for 1 cast of Icestorm vs 2-3 casts can make a huge difference.

Thank you that's what I wanted to know :) Could you tell me if I should improve something in my gear to try end game bosses?

to have 264 unreserved mana (2 icestorm casts with a 6s whispering ice),you need ~1480 int to reach 1760 mana, which is needed with a lvl4 enlighten (3+1 from black sun).

For mana reservation I took the 4% reduced mana reserved node right beside CI. It gets me from 2 icestorm casts to 3 /w only a lvl 3 enlighten & a 132 mana icestorm. On 0 regen maps it's only 2 casts. Currently with 1,504 int I have 326 unreserved mana.

As for moving out of the yellow circles in the minotaur fight he likes to dive underground even while in melee range of me. I think he's going after my golems, not sure. He didn't do that in your video & has not done it in about 60% of my fights with him. Other times he does it every 10 seconds or so.

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siema87 wrote:

Thank you that's what I wanted to know :) Could you tell me if I should improve something in my gear to try end game bosses?

That gear is good. What do your jewels look like & are you following Kelvynn's tree? Do you have lvl 20 q20 gems? I killed shaper with about the same stuff as you're wearing now after a few tries.

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Endactam wrote:

For mana reservation I took the 4% reduced mana reserved node right beside CI. It gets me from 2 icestorm casts to 3 /w only a lvl 3 enlighten & a 132 mana icestorm. On 0 regen maps it's only 2 casts. Currently with 1,504 int I have 326 unreserved mana.

As for moving out of the yellow circles in the minotaur fight he likes to dive underground even while in melee range of me. I think he's going after my golems, not sure. He didn't do that in your video & has not done it in about 60% of my fights with him. Other times he does it every 10 seconds or so.

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siema87 wrote:

Thank you that's what I wanted to know :) Could you tell me if I should improve something in my gear to try end game bosses?

That gear is good. What do your jewels look like & are you following Kelvynn's tree? Do you have lvl 20 q20 gems? I killed shaper with about the same stuff as you're wearing now after a few tries.

Dunno why for me items shows with gems... yeah I have all 20/20 and following exactly guide. Still around 8 points to go as wanna finish at 91 lvl.

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siema87 wrote:

Thank you that's what I wanted to know :) Could you tell me if I should improve something in my gear to try end game bosses?

Spoiler

Your items are good.

But where is AA? Unless you plan on going directly after the Shaper and skipping T16, you really want AA. Instead of that Clarity there. This build does not need Clarity in any situation at all.

I assume that AoE is just there for easy trash clearing? You will want CE instead of AoE for the serious bosses.

And get the 0.6% leech enchant on the boots. There are only 15 boot enchants, it's not hard to get what you want even with bad luck. Uber Lab runs are always profitable and never wasted anyway.

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CheefKaigen wrote:

to have 264 unreserved mana (2 icestorm casts with a 6s whispering ice),you need ~1480 int to reach 1760 mana, which is needed with a lvl4 enlighten (3+1 from black sun).

2 casts is what you need. I have 282 free mana on the Inquisitor in the videos above facerolling T16 and the Shaper. The +1 level is the other major reason to use Black Sun (other than +15% Int). With a rare helmet you need Enlighten lv 4 to be comfortable, in addition to the price tag on those helmets. BSC is better and cheaper than a good rare even in this league (really though, fuck the flippers! they piss me off).

Oh yeah, and your Discipline gains a level too for more ES. Discipline is pretty easy to level to 20 (or just buy 20/0). With some luck (vaal) you can be running around with lv 22 Discipline (like all my chars do).