[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

Hi Kelvynn, сan you advise what version of build is better overall your elementalist or inquisitor, which you play on essence? Thanks.

You have huge lag of INT - an good Ice Storm Witch Easy hit 2k - 2,2k Int
and had much more dmg then 10k - i personal hit 44k Ice Storm Dmg, the ather thing is
to use Rare Items is an waste of potential since you can easy go full Unique items and have an full bonus from your rings wich add you 3% Int for each Unique item. ES lag with Uniques ? not really you can easy hit over 10k. Res lag ? Nope i easy run 7 Auras and im on each map max res - you have much more potential :)

Then 6l armor is not required? can invest in a high ES 5l one better?

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meyogi wrote:

Thank you for all the extra tips you gave me man! I finally did it!!! :D

I had to wait till I leveled since I was already 50% by the time my enlighten leveled.
Took me so long to attempt again because of my enlighten, but it was worthwhile in the end. :)

Grats!! :)

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reliq wrote:

btw did you try to calculate your dps ?

With Elementalist I'm calculating ~3.1 million dps (assuming 0 resist and that all icecicle hits the same target which is not true). That's why I didn't take any increase area node because the explosion area doesn't seem to change, hence I can pump my single target dps like this. Did you try ?

Note: calculation done with 1820 INT with level 93 tree and all 20/20 gems (+728% spell dmg in total).

I did try to calculate the real DPS back in 2.1. There is a Firestorm Calculator (iirc it's linked in the Wiki article on either Firestorm or Icestorm). But it's bugged, there is a wrong formula in it. The data on boss resists is also not verified. And then Ascendancy came out, and it all got really complicated.

So now I just compare how fast some big target dies to this build and to a build whose tooltip shows their actual DPS. There was a video of a Shaper kill by a godly geared CI Reaver, the kind that can push 1.5 mil dps. I think the Shaper was going down at about the same speed as in my Inquisitor's video.

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OrinRus wrote:

Hi Kelvynn, сan you advise what version of build is better overall your elementalist or inquisitor, which you play on essence? Thanks.

The definition of 'better' depends on your goals, what you like and don't like to do in PoE. I usually recommend trying the Witch first if you haven't played WI before, because she's all around awesome, and near-immunity to reflect is very addictive. But if your main target is Uber Lab then Scion is the fastest, or if you are seriously considering going for lv 100. And I've only been playing the Templar for 3 weeks, but I suspect that he may be the strongest boss killer of the three (I didn't even think about his +55% casting speed when I picked that class, but boy can he stack Icestorms on that Shaper!)

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Banshu wrote:

Then 6l armor is not required? can invest in a high ES 5l one better?

Correct. This build only needs 5L. If you happen to get a 6L chest then it's a luxury QoL upgrade: you put Orb of Storms into the 6th socket and have both the Orb and CWDT BL curse everything. But that's not really necessary.

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Creds wrote:

You have huge lag of INT - an good Ice Storm Witch Easy hit 2k - 2,2k Int
and had much more dmg then 10k - i personal hit 44k Ice Storm Dmg, the ather thing is
to use Rare Items is an waste of potential since you can easy go full Unique items and have an full bonus from your rings wich add you 3% Int for each Unique item. ES lag with Uniques ? not really you can easy hit over 10k. Res lag ? Nope i easy run 7 Auras and im on each map max res - you have much more potential :)

Pure INT and Icestorm tooltip is not the goal. This build is not a glass cannon. What use is a 44k tooltip when you get 1-shot, or perma-stunned, or perma-frozen, or insta-RIP to any reflective rare you run into?

All-unique versions have been proposed ever since Baalorlord posted the original WI Scion build back in 2.0. But they all had terrible flaws and weren't good for anything but showing off that tooltip. His typical reply to them was, 'How's that Uber going?' - and they'd disappear after that.

So, how's that Shaper going with 44k Icestorm? ;)

Have any tips for defeating the Gorge boss? I can't seem to dodge out of his way fast enough and I get instakilled with 7432 ES

Guide updated. Welcome the Templar/Inquisitor and Crystal Belts. New videos and a big boss guide.

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faelanae wrote:

Have any tips for defeating the Gorge boss? I can't seem to dodge out of his way fast enough and I get instakilled with 7432 ES

You aren't supposed to dodge him. Are you using AA? Fortifying? Using the curses? I didn't have any trouble with him on either of my chars. But if he is killing you then bring Granite and Basalt flask and treat him like Rigwald or Chimera.

Added Gorge to the boss guide.

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Kelvynn wrote:

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reliq wrote:

btw did you try to calculate your dps ?

With Elementalist I'm calculating ~3.1 million dps (assuming 0 resist and that all icecicle hits the same target which is not true). That's why I didn't take any increase area node because the explosion area doesn't seem to change, hence I can pump my single target dps like this. Did you try ?

Note: calculation done with 1820 INT with level 93 tree and all 20/20 gems (+728% spell dmg in total).

I did try to calculate the real DPS back in 2.1. There is a Firestorm Calculator (iirc it's linked in the Wiki article on either Firestorm or Icestorm). But it's bugged, there is a wrong formula in it. The data on boss resists is also not verified. And then Ascendancy came out, and it all got really complicated.

So now I just compare how fast some big target dies to this build and to a build whose tooltip shows their actual DPS. There was a video of a Shaper kill by a godly geared CI Reaver, the kind that can push 1.5 mil dps. I think the Shaper was going down at about the same speed as in my Inquisitor's video.

I did the calculation myself actually, it's not complicated but a bit long.
Inquisitor is doing more dps in theory (20% more) due to the higher Cast speed, but i didn't account for the time it takes to use leap slam every 4sec. So at the end, I think witch is better, the dps is similar but much better defense to reflect.

For sure the effective dps is over 1M+

note: regarding the increase AOE, I found this video posted today on reddit. This applies to icestorm and not increasing the AOE will increase your single target dps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6IipGTmwzE

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Kelvynn wrote:

Guide updated. Welcome the Templar/Inquisitor and Crystal Belts. New videos and a big boss guide.

Awesome build man, Kindly add your essence league gear too also add after X months of playing.

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Creds wrote:

You have huge lag of INT - an good Ice Storm Witch Easy hit 2k - 2,2k Int
and had much more dmg then 10k - i personal hit 44k Ice Storm Dmg, the ather thing is
to use Rare Items is an waste of potential since you can easy go full Unique items and have an full bonus from your rings wich add you 3% Int for each Unique item. ES lag with Uniques ? not really you can easy hit over 10k. Res lag ? Nope i easy run 7 Auras and im on each map max res - you have much more potential :)

Can you give us some info on about how you`ve reached 2,2k with the witch ? and where would your tree go if you equip I assume Skyforth for that cause. Also wich gloves do you use ?

Not difficult to find, this guy who speak like a moron is talking about this build :
2.1 LL Whispering Ice! Up to 10,5k ES, 2.2k Int and nearly 17k Avg.Dmg! NEW THREAD UP!
[2.2] (Berserker/Hierophant) Low Life Whispering Ice! Up to 10k+ ES and 27k Avg.Dmg. peak!

This build probably cost around 25ex (shavronne's wrappings atziri's acuity), the best he can do with that is normal atziri slow run and 17 frigging minutes for vinktar square, this build is the total opposite of face tanking even for atziri's trio he have to kite like hell. Such an amazing build enjoy your 44k tooltip and leave us with our int "lag" (but your probably mean "lack").