[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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teharos wrote:

Does increased ele dmg with weapons apply on icestorm? Because, tooltip shows no difference.

No it doesn't. The belt is for the anti-freeze.

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VincePlaysPOE wrote:

I thought Stibnite flasks don't work with Unwavering Stance's "cannot evade attacks"..?

You're Correct. I was referring to leveling in HC with the build. I haven't reached Unwavering stance yet, at which point, you're correct, stibnite loses most of it's value over the sulphur.

I have 2 ES regalias . One with 778 Es and some res and 1 with 710 with 53 Int. The 710 lowers my totaly shield by about 180 es overall. Is the extra 53 int and 300pdps worth it over the 778 ES regalia ?

Another question for Kelvynn:

What's the trade-off for getting rid of the CWDT-Ball Lightning-Curse on hit Five link, and just using Orb of Storms for Curse on Hit? Would be easier to fit on gear, and if you still have a 5L can slot in increased AoE

I haven't tested obviously, but just curious what your experience is, or anyone elses. Is it too clunky relying on casting it every encounter? There's a bit of an upside where you can be pro-active with the curses, rather than relying on being hit first, BUT there's a big downside of there being a small window where we're not leeching with icestorm, because we'd cast Orb of Storms first.

What're your thoughts?

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ColeonePS wrote:

I have 2 ES regalias . One with 778 Es and some res and 1 with 710 with 53 Int. The 710 lowers my totaly shield by about 180 es overall. Is the extra 53 int and 300pdps worth it over the 778 ES regalia ?

Yes, 53 Int is MUCH better than 68 ES on the chest armor.

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Shiverwarp wrote:

Another question for Kelvynn:

What's the trade-off for getting rid of the CWDT-Ball Lightning-Curse on hit Five link, and just using Orb of Storms for Curse on Hit? Would be easier to fit on gear, and if you still have a 5L can slot in increased AoE

I haven't tested obviously, but just curious what your experience is, or anyone elses. Is it too clunky relying on casting it every encounter? There's a bit of an upside where you can be pro-active with the curses, rather than relying on being hit first, BUT there's a big downside of there being a small window where we're not leeching with icestorm, because we'd cast Orb of Storms first.

What're your thoughts?

BL is much more efficient at cursing enemies, especially ranged attackers and mobile bosses. Time spent getting near them, dropping an Orb and waiting for it to zap them may cost you. Some fights are already too intense to add more action. It's a viable option but not as good as the automatic CWDT BL curse. You can have both with a luxury upgrade: 6L the chest and put them both there like I do in Standard:


However, in some fights that take place in a small arena, and/or when you really want an extra layer of defense (Purity instead of Blasphemy WM), it's even recommended to use Orb as the curse delivery method. I was only using that for Uber Atziri until 2.4, but now I also use it for Phoenix and Shaper (replace CWDT with WM, replace BL with AoE, put PoF or PoI in the helmet).

But in the day-to-day mapping it's so much better to let BL take care of the curses.

Thanks for explaining the reasoning! The 6L luxury is definitely a cool addition!

Very curious, a lot of the new Atlas bosses do happen to be in smaller arenas, so I think it might be a common swap to make.

At the very least, until I get better colouring, might be what I have to run anyway

Trying this build out in 2.4 essence league. I'm level 80 with around level 17-18 gems. Just did Uber lab with damage sitting at 4.5k and ES only at 5.3k. Damage is fine for now but I'm wondering why my es is so low. I've followed the passive guide so far and still messing around with getting links/colors right.

@Quesarito, from your gear it looks like you have way to less Intelligence. Every single intelligence point helps. My gears is really medium aswell but at the moment im at 7300 ES. Have a look at my gear to compare: https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/GeronimR%C3%B6der/characters Name: SarahTheXanthippe. I usually always go for a 45+ intelligence stat on every rare item i have and i try to cut it down on the uniques. For example your Armor: 659 ES and 40 Int - My Armor: 645 ES and 52. Just these 12 INT points will make my ES increase a decent amount more than yours will. How much Intelligence do you have? I have about 1430.

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Shiverwarp wrote:

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teharos wrote:

Does increased ele dmg with weapons apply on icestorm? Because, tooltip shows no difference.

No it doesn't. The belt is for the anti-freeze.

Then, is Catalyse worth the skill point?

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teharos wrote:

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Shiverwarp wrote:

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teharos wrote:

Does increased ele dmg with weapons apply on icestorm? Because, tooltip shows no difference.

No it doesn't. The belt is for the anti-freeze.

Then, is Catalyse worth the skill point?

Yes, we take it for the int points, because we take the jewel slot next to it for all the strength nodes around, and stick in a Brute Force, so we get 20 int from the one point.

Been using this build since the start of league (with a few hiccups because I didn't intentionally start with this build, but most of the issues are flushed out by now) and I'm not sure what do in terms of immediate future. All my upgrades from here on out seems to cost a lot of currency and is well outside my current buying capacities.




I'm working on getting the chromes to fix up my gloves so I can use it for the immortal call cwdt setup and set the chest to BL curse setup. Currently doing fairly well up to T10 maps (haven't actually tried further than that yet) but having under 6k ES is making me nervous.