[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

I have 1.2Million dps when the tooltip only show 5.5k or something like that.

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gruumine wrote:

I have 1.2Million dps when the tooltip only show 5.5k or something like that.

Yep. Pure visual comparison of how fast the boss goes down to WI and some skill with an accurate tooltip DPS tells me that I'm doing about 1.5M DPS with 7k Icestorm tooltip (my league Inquisitor kills the Shaper about as quickly as a godly/mirrored 1.5M dps CI Reaver in Standard).

Finally upgraded my chest like you asked. Now I just need to work on getting quality and stuff like that on my gems, and getting the next possible upgrade when I can...



Been using those two to help with a lot of the bosses that hit super hard...

I got completely obliterated on Minutaur - 6 deaths.

Went in with 12,885 ES, and 8k+ tool tip damage. Had two fire golems up as I didnt have my chaos with me. Put my ice dude away to avoid roll attack. I think he was still rolling and hitting me. Noty positive honestly.

Swapped out one of my Perandus signet rings for a Doedre's so that I could dual curse and add Enfeeble which means I had to drop discipline. But still at 10.2k es. More than you had in your vid. Still get wallopped

then I decide to drop both golems just to make sure they arent triggering the roll. Still rolling and getting owned

Halp.

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Deliverme wrote:

I got completely obliterated on Minutaur - 6 deaths.

Went in with 12,885 ES, and 8k+ tool tip damage. .

Would you mind posting your gear and tree? I'm astounded at how much ES you have. I'm level 93 (still with 3 unspent points after I just respec'd to this build - still deciding), I've followed the posted tree almost to a tee and I only have 7775 ES with Discipline.

I should add that I have pretty nice ES on my gloves and chest and respectable on my boots, too. Int on each but around 30-40 range each.

Thanks.

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urgatorbait wrote:

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Deliverme wrote:

I got completely obliterated on Minutaur - 6 deaths.

Went in with 12,885 ES, and 8k+ tool tip damage. .

Would you mind posting your gear and tree? I'm astounded at how much ES you have. I'm level 93 (still with 3 unspent points after I just respec'd to this build - still deciding), I've followed the posted tree almost to a tee and I only have 7775 ES with Discipline.

I should add that I have pretty nice ES on my gloves and chest and respectable on my boots, too. Int on each but around 30-40 range each.

Thanks.

If I had to guess, it's all top tier gear, a top tier crystal belt, and probably 21/20 Discipline, etc.

Hey op!, just wondering if i should change out my hubris for black sun...not really sure if my dps is at where it should be.

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Deliverme wrote:

I got completely obliterated on Minutaur - 6 deaths.

Went in with 12,885 ES, and 8k+ tool tip damage. Had two fire golems up as I didnt have my chaos with me. Put my ice dude away to avoid roll attack. I think he was still rolling and hitting me. Noty positive honestly.

Swapped out one of my Perandus signet rings for a Doedre's so that I could dual curse and add Enfeeble which means I had to drop discipline. But still at 10.2k es. More than you had in your vid. Still get wallopped

then I decide to drop both golems just to make sure they arent triggering the roll. Still rolling and getting owned

Halp.

If Mino is actually using his Ground Roll: are you facetanking him? If you try to hit him from outside of his melee range then he will roll you. Or if you are in a party: he will use the roll if somebody else is outside of his melee range.

And your custom changes to the build aren't good. You are sacrificing way too much for that extra ES and hurting yourself. I've said it many times: ES is not the goal. The goal is fully functional mechanics and high Int.

1. You are running with 1 curse. No Enfeeble, no TC.
2. You are not using AA.
3. You don't have Potency of Will.
4. You are using ES nodes.
5. You are not using Orb of Storms.
6. You don't have Mastermind of Discord.
7. You are using a Hubris circlet instead of Black Sun, and not even a very good one.
8. Your boots are low Int.

Minion Life Support, Minion Damage Support, Frost Wall - get rid of that useless crap ASAP. We don't have space for Flame Dash+FC either, not unless you use it instead of Leap Slam and play without Fortify (but then facetanking bosses gets harder). Inc Duration too, not worth a socket.

Drop Foresight and the 10% ES node. Drop Faith and Steel. Get Potency of Will and Whispers of Doom. 1500 Int = 300% increased ES. All those small %ES nodes are irrelevant.

So yeah, get back to the build. The only thing that's Ok there is you using AoF+Ctf because you have a legacy Perandus signet (but it's harder to max resist without Pyre). If you want to use both of them and go with dual-curse (WM aura, CWDT Enfeeble) that's semi-Ok, you'll just die more often but should still win most of the time without TC. But the rest of your changes are totally killing you.

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waddlewaddle wrote:

Hey op!, just wondering if i should change out my hubris for black sun...not really sure if my dps is at where it should be.

I don't know how good your hubris is, but I swapped this one for Black Sun and never regretted it:

alright so i just did another run trying to facetank everything. and what can i say it went really smooth and also deathless. his auto attacks were tickling and the beam damage was easy to leech against. as you said he wasnt shooting any balls at me (just like once after the zana phase when i had to get close to him again ). He still went for his slam attack even though i stood on top of him. i also survived that with around 3k es left popping my flasks. still no sword drop :(