[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

Hey op, sorry to trouble you again, could you take a look at my gear and help me if theres any major improvements(other than the hubris into BSC)

crafted this belt today, it's so awesome!

EDIT: I just found where you answered this question on page 58. Please disregard my question here. Thanks again!!


OK, this build is awesome. Just hit level 91 and I have only one question/suggestions: I swapped out the Ball Lightning CWDT setup for Curse on Hit--Orb of Storms--Temp. Chains--Enfeeble. The reasoning is that since you are already always casting Orb of Storms anyway, you will always have instant dual curse on enemies without needing to wait for Ball Lightning to proc. Plus Orb gives you 360 degrees of curse instead of the 1 projectile in front of you. In a 5L, you can add Increased AoE which covers most of the screen and instantly curses everything.

I'm sure that the author has thought of this setup and decided against it for very good reasons, but I have no idea what they might be. Is there some other benefit to using the Ball Lightning setup that I just missed?

Thanks for the awesome guide!

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jedy567 wrote:

EDIT: I just found where you answered this question on page 58. Please disregard my question here. Thanks again!!


OK, this build is awesome. Just hit level 91 and I have only one question/suggestions: I swapped out the Ball Lightning CWDT setup for Curse on Hit--Orb of Storms--Temp. Chains--Enfeeble. The reasoning is that since you are already always casting Orb of Storms anyway, you will always have instant dual curse on enemies without needing to wait for Ball Lightning to proc. Plus Orb gives you 360 degrees of curse instead of the 1 projectile in front of you. In a 5L, you can add Increased AoE which covers most of the screen and instantly curses everything.

I'm sure that the author has thought of this setup and decided against it for very good reasons, but I have no idea what they might be. Is there some other benefit to using the Ball Lightning setup that I just missed?

Thanks for the awesome guide!

If I had to guess, Ball Lightning travels pretty far, and can curse off screen mobs too.

Figured it out...

You can have only one orb of storms...

Ball Lightning keeps casting...

I have another question to the author of the build - do you run with all three auras on?

My mana and Enlighten lvl 2 (+1 from helmet) allow me to run Discipline, WM and Arctic Armor, leaving enough mana for 2 casts of the main attack skill (or one if I switch to the concentrated gem).

I feel reluctant to ever switch off Discipline (as it gives me 2200+ ES), but switching on AA seems a little taxing for some situations when you need to pre-spam main attack.

What is your approach?

In your video of 2.4 witch vs 2x Rigwald, you have all 3 auras on. Do you always do that when farming less dangerous maps?

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Brongard wrote:

I have another question to the author of the build - do you run with all three auras on?

My mana and Enlighten lvl 2 (+1 from helmet) allow me to run Discipline, WM and Arctic Armor, leaving enough mana for 2 casts of the main attack skill (or one if I switch to the concentrated gem).

I feel reluctant to ever switch off Discipline (as it gives me 2200+ ES), but switching on AA seems a little taxing for some situations when you need to pre-spam main attack.

What is your approach?

In your video of 2.4 witch vs 2x Rigwald, you have all 3 auras on. Do you always do that when farming less dangerous maps?

I do almost all maps with 3 auras on. Been up to t13 so far without too much problem. Only time I die is during lag spikes and can't use my flasks on time.

Hmm can not chose between Witch version of it and Templar version. Which one tankier and what about the dps? Never played as Whispering Ice tho. So dunno which one to chose..

HI Whispering Ice maniacs ;p
My current gear on ESC



jeweles


flask


stats
avg. damage : 17200 (max buffed with flask)
ES: 11549
INT: 1700


My Passive Skill Tree - lvl 95


Videos (only one for now i have low uploaded speed)
Uber Lab Run

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PetuSchokk wrote:

Hmm can not chose between Witch version of it and Templar version. Which one tankier and what about the dps? Never played as Whispering Ice tho. So dunno which one to chose..

Also how much i need ES for tackling the High tier maps, Guardians and Shaper

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Brongard wrote:

I have another question to the author of the build - do you run with all three auras on?

My mana and Enlighten lvl 2 (+1 from helmet) allow me to run Discipline, WM and Arctic Armor, leaving enough mana for 2 casts of the main attack skill (or one if I switch to the concentrated gem).

I feel reluctant to ever switch off Discipline (as it gives me 2200+ ES), but switching on AA seems a little taxing for some situations when you need to pre-spam main attack.

What is your approach?

In your video of 2.4 witch vs 2x Rigwald, you have all 3 auras on. Do you always do that when farming less dangerous maps?

I always run with Disc+WM+AA except for the special setups where WM is replaced by a Purity. Having mana for 1 cast of Icestorm with CE or 2 casts with IR is perfectly fine while leveling Enlighten. In the Templar version there is a video of farming Uber Lab like that. I did everything except T16/Shaper in this league before my Enlighten was lv 3.

Pre-spamming Icestorm? 1-2 casts is fine for the strongboxes and essences. You don't need more than that. In less dangerous maps there is even less reason to pre-cast Icestorm.

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PetuSchokk wrote:

Hmm can not chose between Witch version of it and Templar version. Which one tankier and what about the dps? Never played as Whispering Ice tho. So dunno which one to chose..

If you have not played a WI build before - start with the Witch. It's the easiest one to play.

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PetuSchokk wrote:

Also how much i need ES for tackling the High tier maps, Guardians and Shaper

ES is not the goal. The Shaper can be done with 5k ES as seen in my video. Extra ES just gives you more margin for error. I have never played the Guardians without tons of mods, but I suspect that they all can be done with 5k ES if the map is white or blue. If you want to farm endgame maps with lots of mods (I always roll 90+ IIQ and pack size) then I recommend 8k ES or more.

What matters is Int and DPS. I would strongly recommend 1500 Int or better for T16/Shaper. Keep in mind that this build scales with level all the way to 100. If you don't have 1500 Int at lv 87 it doesn't mean you won't at lv 92 (which is the recommended level for doing the Shaper, and the tree for it is in the guide).

And of course 20+/20 gems. DPS is very important because it's your leech too.

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blajo wrote:

HI Whispering Ice maniacs ;p
My current gear on ESC

Spoiler

jeweles

flask

stats
avg. damage : 17200 (max buffed with flask)
ES: 11549
INT: 1700


My Passive Skill Tree - lvl 95


Videos (only one for now i have low uploaded speed)
Uber Lab Run

Damn, that's some sweet stuff! :)

However: if you replace Foresight and Faith & Steel with the jewel socket below Ghost Reaver, you will gain more than you lose (remember, DPS is always better than ES).

Also, is that ring really better than Perandus Signet? Or an Opal ring with similar stats?