2.4 and the CoC nerf - what to expect ?

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Avantor wrote:

It has been mentioned from ggg that they will change coc, hence the op trying to imagine what they will do with the skill. Chris also mentioned changes to poison, it was in with a video streamer but i cannot remember where. He said that too many slapped on voltaxic for chaos conversion and that currently diversity was suffering .

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zbouby25 wrote:

So we knew that CoC was "about to get nerfed" with Ascendancy, then it was not.
But it's prolly on its way...

How would you guys balance Cast on Crit ?

My nerf

Spoiler

linked spells have no crit multiplier

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AntPi1e_ wrote:

Has anyone mentioned nerfing Champion yet?

In fact, maybe we don't need any nerfs at all, but global monster buffs (increased monster health?) ..

I mean think about it. In recent memory GGG has buffed players a lot and not the monsters.
(Examples: 6 "Super Skill points - subclasses" , new types of flasks, and enchantments

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lagwin1980 wrote:

Am i missing something? has a nerf actually been mentioned?
Or is it just QQ CoC is OP it's going to get nerfed paranoia?

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好的男 wrote:

Since when is coc a problem?
There are other things that needs adjustments first.

and the change was about cooldowns afaik

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I_NO wrote:

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lagwin1980 wrote:

Am i missing something? has a nerf actually been mentioned?
Or is it just QQ CoC is OP it's going to get nerfed paranoia?

Just speculation lol the CoC complaints isn't fucking awful as the chaos meta whining crying so in most cases it won't be touched.

As for the chaos meta well that's fucked like I've seen way too many threads. When the shitty community complaints about something it WILL be fucked like there's no questions asked not to mention Chris already stated the ''chaos'' team wants to shit on it too so that doesn't help.

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Nephalim wrote:

IIT: people not wanting their opie builds nerfed by saying other people's builds are more opie.

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Rowanbladex wrote:

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好的男 wrote:

Since when is coc a problem?
There are other things that needs adjustments first.

and the change was about cooldowns afaik

someone claify what change? The only one I can remember is that they added a .05 second cooldown on the gem back in something like 1.3, that's it.

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Demonoz wrote:

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Rowanbladex wrote:

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好的男 wrote:

Since when is coc a problem?
There are other things that needs adjustments first.

and the change was about cooldowns afaik

someone claify what change? The only one I can remember is that they added a .05 second cooldown on the gem back in something like 1.3, that's it.

Thats correct and what was mentioned before this ascendancy patch was something about making the proc 100% on the gem and then adjusting the internal CD even more probably .1.. Which at that point would make it where basically you dont have to stack as much crit to cap out nor APS since you would max out at 10 procs per second which would be way too easy to the point about any build can easily hit that without much effort which would make very little sense either.. Thus why it was mentioned BUT Chris said it wasn't ready in time to be in the last patch in this state so.. There will probably be some adjustment to COC in this next patch or maybe later but as far as what exactly and when its kinda hard to say.

Considering the investment to takes to make a "Good" COC build it really should be left for now and as already mentioned here other things in our broken meta ATM should get adjustments. COC still takes a shit ton of investment to make it work and even more to make it OP which is the way it should be. Making it where you invest for some gimped version will just result in it not being used anymore at all like all skills that get gutted.

The only reason people think COC needs an adjustment is because they see people doing crazy things with COC builds that have insane gear and running Discharge on a Voll's Ammy.. If anything COC isnt the issue anyway.. Its more so Discharge that makes COC feel broken but again only if you have around 20-50Ex+ in gear to make it broken. Right now im more concerned with builds that cost a few chaos and still out do any COC build out there... Thats the real problem right now.

And between Ascendancy Classes and Perandus most of the OP builds cost little to nothing to make and they destroy the content with ease while not even having to invest in damage so we have builds doing insane damage AND tanky as hell.. Investing 20-50+Ex in a build should result in a powerhouse.. Investing Chaos into a build should not But unfortunately thats not the case ATM...