Soo these weapons with resolute technique...

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krenderke wrote:

I feel like I am being too nice again, yet I am not a patient man.

Let me expalin whatis wrong with your passive tree, step by step.

At the same time I suggest you checking the tree on this juggernaut marauder I played in perandus league until I got bored of it at lv 87, the clearspeed was good enough and I had 7800 life on it.



Picked up around 400% inc phys dmg, with a good ammount of armour and a lot of life, which can still be increased later,.

207% life
365% armour

Everything is kind of balanced.

Well let's have a look at your tree:

You have around 650% inc dmg, 126% life 114% armour.

There is a thing called diminishing returns, if you take too much of something it will become less useful than before to the point, where it hardly do anything for you.

Tree pathing:
Marauder starting nodes should be trough the life nodes instead.
3 nodes used to connect to the left side trough inefficient nodes instead of using 2 on the top side next to resolute technique.

Went trough 4% attackspeed instead of 12% inc phys at the duelist small 2h wheel.

Wasted points:
Endurance charges: 4 point in total
Combat stamina: 3 points
Martial experience: 3 points
Bloody budgeon: 3 points
Hematophagy: 3 points

There are a few stun threshold nodes, but assuming you want to play permastun they are allowed, but still should remove 2 points from the marauder mace/maul wheel, the attackspeed with phys dmg are less useful than the 15% phys one.

The entire bottom 2hand duelist wheel is inefficient too, at least in my eyes.
that is 7 points.

We are already at 1+4+3*4+7=24 points.
But let's say you keep that wheel, since you want to be dmg heavy instead of hiper tanky

Ideally modified tree, that is at least half decent should look like this.


Considering you did not have those allresist nodes I took, you don't need them, to cap your resistances, so this is the outcome with your stun nodes.

187% maxlife
212% armour
511% inc melee dmg

And it has that bloody attack leech for both life and mana, 0.4% normally is more than enough for melee builds.

In the end you lost around 140% dmg, gained 60% life and doubled your armour (which in the end is only 33% more than it was, but still)

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katchwi wrote:

Build is obviously made to do the most dmg posible to stun (i couldnt stun some bosses). But i should be able to switch to deal damage also.

Well, thats not the matter here.

Answer this:
how long would it take me to farm a mirror to buy a weapon that has enough dps to reach the same damage of that guy, but NOT the same clear speed? (only for the weapon) How much did he spent in his entire gear?
What if i want to go stun ground slam or resolute? Will i ever get the same dps? Lets put the clear speed aside because you KNOW that its not posible, just the dps.

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krenderke wrote:

I have a question with a possible answer too:

There are a few players from time to time asking various questions on the forums, obviously knowing nothing of the game and they have multiple 6links, where do they get those 6links from?
Maybe they could use the same "source" to "farm a mirror".

ps: If you revert the suggested changes on the tree and assume you will be able to level 8 more levels, then you are mistaken, also the tree jsut looks way worse + still no mana leech, I guess you want to make the game harder for yourself.

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adghar wrote:

Posting in a legendary thread.

katchwi doesn't seem to be taking any advice whatsoever, so I feel like this thread would be better suited for Feedback and Suggestions or General Discussion instead.

Feedback and Suggestions if katchwi can come up with some kind of buff he wants developers to apply to his build but not others (???? No idea how that would work) or General Discussion if be just wants to vent his frustrations about inequality.

Otherwise I don't see the point of having this thread in Gameplay Help and Discussion??? I'm pretty sure all possible constructive criticism has been given, all answers as to inquiries of why one build is better than another have been given, so...?

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LightningStars wrote:

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katchwi wrote:

Build is obviously made to do the most dmg posible to stun (i couldnt stun some bosses). But i should be able to switch to deal damage also.

Well, thats not the matter here.

Answer this:
how long would it take me to farm a mirror to buy a weapon that has enough dps to reach the same damage of that guy, but NOT the same clear speed? (only for the weapon) How much did he spent in his entire gear?
What if i want to go stun ground slam or resolute? Will i ever get the same dps? Lets put the clear speed aside because you KNOW that its not posible, just the dps.

I want to point out that relying on stun for bosses pretty much means that you can't do high level unwavering maps. Secondly, neglecting defenses on a melee 2H character is a fine way to get killed and waste your exp and map portals. Thirdly, as people have already mentioned, you can't go subpar builds like "stun ground slam or resolute" and expect to have similar dps to "proper" builds like COC ground slam, or even RT earthquake. Lastly, you seem to be mistaken about the requirements of the game. You do not need to have mirrored gear, or exceedingly good stats to beat end game content. All you need is a good skill tree, decent gear (which should cost at most maybe 4 exalts in perandus), and the ability to understand the pros and cons of your particular playstyle.

You complain that you can't "reach good damage and clear speed with what -you- like". That's too bad, your main weapon is essentially a budget weapon mostly used by people who play the game casually. You complain that you need auras for damage, but can't use auras because of mana issues. You complain that if you use blood magic you don't have enough regeneration. That's the point of the game, the idea of making you look at your skill tree and items and realising that there are stats which you have been ignoring for damage.

TLDR: Your build is crap, your expectations for your build are incredibly unrealistic, and you need to open your eyes and stop living in your dream world.

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katchwi wrote:

tooltip dps tooltip dps tooltip dps

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katchwi wrote:

Oh, thanks for noticing that the game makes all the posible to keep you dead with every build you have.
But some builds just bypass that, like having an aurora xDDD

ps: and let me tell you something, i do prefer having 2k less of life and having more dps and using some tricks like, lifesteal to survive? instead of be the tipical tank sucking blows.

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sidtherat wrote:

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katchwi wrote:

tooltip dps tooltip dps tooltip dps

well.. you - judging by your responses, builds and general attitude - are interested only in tooltip dps

it is fine

but you should know that this is a very, very limited approach that blinds you and prevents any progress you could be making with your builds and game knowledge

sure, CoCS is a cancer of this game (ggg wanted to change it in recent patch but backtracked). cancer gem that carries many noobs and gives them 'power' they do not deserve

but the trick is - you do not need it (not in the easiest poe version to date) to clear pretty much everything

i have a 5 link marohi, i can casualy speed clear t10 maps WITH MODS (most of these noob-CoCS players play white/blue maps..) with no risk of dying

the key is 'moderation'. you do not need 200k tooltip. you can kill a mob only once. if your clears are slow - cut the dps in half and invest into movement speed, aoe (you using Conc with Ground Slam.. you just do not do that)

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Crusader_of_Sorrow wrote:

Good discussion, worst arguments ever from the OP side. YOur build sucks because you built it wrong, that's a fact. Stopped reading your arguments when you shit talked about the almost obligatory leech nodes(Even more in a 7l LoL). Everyone have shown you it, just accept and change your build, instead of complaining about the other's toy being better, do your better.

The fact that coc is something disgusting should be the focus here, if that wasn't in the game, it would be more innovative, most players just see coc and use it for being too strong, then just link highest dps spells with it and press one button without caring about dying, that's how the standard playing can be seen at most actually when you see coc.

And some even complain about the game being too easy using coc, why not use a decent spell/attack instead of a broken mechanic so?