General Discussion - When will Labyrinth be nerfed for non-elite players to get Ascendancy classes? - Forum

" Vias_Myton wrote: " Drahken wrote: I am talking about merciless in 15 minutes (just did it timed in 13 minutes, izaro fight was 4 seconds) as a level 89 marauder. as far as doing normal mode in 20 minutes with a brand new character.. why would I be doing the brand brand new content with a character that is like 24 hours old? if the content is that easy give me a break, its a class ascension.. if you are complaining because you can't do the brand new content with a 24 hour old character in a brand new league then I don't know what to tell you. I will tell you that regardless what league you are in, the actual traps are easy to dodge and merciless can be done repeatedly in under 15 minutes with a standard character. Im not complaining, Im asking for help, because I cant get through 3rd stage merciless Izaro with my level 92 legacy windripper, legacy coil, legacy surgeons flask ranger. Especially that 4 second Izaro kill makes me wonder how you did that. My char has 110k single target dps when fully buffed, enough to easily kill normal Aziri, but I dont deal enough damage to Izaro before his barrage gets me. That leads me to my next problem, movement. Dodging sounds easy and it is doable in his first two stages, but his third stage is a trap cluster zone with like a fourth of Malachais room to stand safely. Im not good enough to reliably dodge that barrage in this stage. his only deadly move for me is the chaos barrage you speak of, but ive found that as soon as you are teleported just move to the right or left and you can dodge the whole thing. his attacks are actually really predictable. but yea I guess my damage is higher than most, I thought I was on par or below most high end players.	Posted by Drahken#7486 on Mar 6, 2016, 3:31:13 PM Quote this Post
" onlinegamer1 wrote: Why are only super elite players allowed to have Ascendancy classes? Players with normal playing skills (not uber/elite players) can't complete the Labyrinth (kill 3rd boss) as it is currently designed. Please fix this asap. Hey man!! I checked your current character. The skill tree and weapon looks alright, but it seems like you are lacking quite a bit of life and resists on your gear. Even at level 40, as a melee character without a shield this is really important. I recomend getting max fire res for the laberinth as priority (as it helps against the fire ground). If you can get boots with more than 15 movement speed you will also have an easier time dodging Izaro's attacks and debuffing him in the previous fights. Finally, I am not sure about this, but I think that Earthquake doesnt work that well with life gain on hit. Maybe try another support gem? Hope I helped a bit. Always remember that you have to not allow Izaro to get his buffs in the first two fights, so that the third one is easier. Dodging is always more important than dealing damage. Try to keep up your ancestral totem as much as you can to slowly chew on the boss. If all fails, you can always leave the laberinth for later and return when you are really overleveld.	Posted by MANGUERA#1183 on Mar 6, 2016, 4:50:24 PM Quote this Post
I am able to clear it in a little over 9 minutes but prior to getting my 2 exalt bow it was impossible to get past his second stage. He has too much defense for any reasonably geared player to overcome before he goes god mode. IGN: Arlianth Check out my LA build: 1782214	Posted by Nephalim#2731 on Mar 6, 2016, 5:17:03 PM Quote this Post
I don't like this type of gamplay like traps/puzzles in ARPG. And now it's forced down my throat if I want get Ascendancy points. Why? If I wanted that I would played Thief-3 or whatever :)	Posted by Garfunkel#1567 on Mar 6, 2016, 5:29:11 PM Quote this Post
I wouldnt nerf the lab at all, but would add a feature allowing everybody to earn the ascendancy skill points (since they are core of the game now). The solution is simple, reduce stats of all mobs in lab (or boss only) in given difficulty level till you earn 2 skill points coresponding to the difficulty. This will work as first run is easy-moderate in difficulty even for "bad players", where if you wanna farm for loot and enchants you gotta do it normal way.	Posted by herflik#4390 on Mar 6, 2016, 5:29:27 PM Quote this Post
" onlinegamer1 wrote: Why are only super elite players allowed to have Ascendancy classes? Players with normal playing skills (not uber/elite players) can't complete the Labyrinth (kill 3rd boss) as it is currently designed. Please fix this asap. When will you improve your skill at POE so that you can finally complete the labyrinth?	Posted by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016, 5:43:17 PM
I have never been called an elite player. Even when I killed all the invasion bosses in hardcore. Thank you for the compliment. <3 Free Tibet <3	Posted by Opinionated#4840 on Mar 6, 2016, 5:50:46 PM Quote this Post
Ok no need to nerf it much maybe a little bit say remove the traps in the fight.But the big thing i would suggest is. Once you have beat the lab lets us have a check point at the boss for that day allowing multiply tries. "Blue warrior shot the food"	Posted by maxor#5545 on Mar 6, 2016, 5:56:06 PM Quote this Post
" onlinegamer1 wrote: Why are only super elite players allowed to have Ascendancy classes? Players with normal playing skills (not uber/elite players) can't complete the Labyrinth (kill 3rd boss) as it is currently designed. Please fix this asap. Managed to get both a Gladiator and a Slayer so far, and i am as far from an Elite player you can get. Peace, -Filthiest of Filthy Casuals- Alexis smiles =@[.]@= boggled =~[.]^= naughty wink	Posted by Kwonryu#3444 on Mar 6, 2016, 5:58:56 PM Quote this Post
" MANGUERA wrote: " onlinegamer1 wrote: Why are only super elite players allowed to have Ascendancy classes? Players with normal playing skills (not uber/elite players) can't complete the Labyrinth (kill 3rd boss) as it is currently designed. Please fix this asap. Hey man!! I checked your current character. The skill tree and weapon looks alright, but it seems like you are lacking quite a bit of life and resists on your gear. Even at level 40, as a melee character without a shield this is really important. I recomend getting max fire res for the laberinth as priority (as it helps against the fire ground). If you can get boots with more than 15 movement speed you will also have an easier time dodging Izaro's attacks and debuffing him in the previous fights. Finally, I am not sure about this, but I think that Earthquake doesnt work that well with life gain on hit. Maybe try another support gem? Hope I helped a bit. Always remember that you have to not allow Izaro to get his buffs in the first two fights, so that the third one is easier. Dodging is always more important than dealing damage. Try to keep up your ancestral totem as much as you can to slowly chew on the boss. If all fails, you can always leave the laberinth for later and return when you are really overleveld. I can't get any different gear, I am playing that character in the League, so what I have is what I've found. And I am only level 40 because I failed the Lab like 10 times at either Boss fight 2, or boss fight 3, so I went from like 34ish to 40 just trying the Lab. This is what I mean by elite players. Read all the responses in this thread: - get more skill! (Um, duh, you can't. You have what you have, some people's hand-eye coordination are not as good as others) - gear up! (again, not possible for newbies without any such gear) - you just have to learn it! (what is there to learn about a boss that hits as hard as he does on fight 3, with traps limiting your movement, and extra mobs coming in from portals, and exploding AoE elemental balls from the idols.) I DID try to kill the Idols and/or Portals in the first two fights - they don't die. They get to 0 health and kneel (Idols) or just temporarily shut off then regenerate back (portals). As far as I can tell, they can't be killed. Last edited by onlinegamer1#0481 on Mar 6, 2016, 6:46:32 PM	Posted by onlinegamer1#0481 on Mar 6, 2016, 6:46:16 PM Quote this Post