First Wave of Trade Improvements

You have to be very limited in brain abilities to call this p2w. I see many people don't understand what p2w is.

This thread makes me wonder. How is it possible to play with 4 tabs for so many people?

People bother with mule accounts and setting up shops with procurement, but they can't bother to find a way to make 20$ and buy 6 premium stash tabs.

This is lazy beyond lazy.

I hope the next phase is bringing the poe.trade index search page into the game.

This tab feature is really nice, for now.
Finally I can start selling my stuff, first time in 3 years.

But alt-tab-spamming between poe.trade and the game is still a tiny bump.
Very tiny though. Can't wait to sell my shit next league.

Well, its good idea, but why premium only???
Lot's of people will stop playing this game now... y u do dis GGG??
I hope you fix that soon, and do you have to do it on the new expansion??? Just when you can get more players....i really had hopes...now they're gone.(not that i will stop playing the game - it's a brilliant game!!)

add a searh function for the whole stash plx

godly :D

After letting this stew in my mind for a few hours, I'm ready to react to it. First off, I think this is moving in the right direction. I would like to see a lot more of this type of thing with the trade integration -- using third party tools as a means to manage your account is not ideal. Although the most important thing with trade I would like to see is cross instance trading. Offline trading would be nice too but I could see how that might be associated with the auction house mentality and it isn't that big of a deal. In fact I don't trade much these days except for the currency I need (I get a lot of random currency but sometimes I want chaos orbs or fuses etc).

Now, my major criticism is that this should not be limited to premium stash tabs. I have paid for all of my stash tabs to be premiums, so my criticism isn't of personal desire or need. It is the simple truth that GGG sells regular stash tabs. If GGG didn't sell regular stash tabs I might be more on board with this idea, since it is the pay per perk mentality and buying a premium stash upgrade is fairly cheap -- you also don't need so many of them if your purpose is purely for trading, even one could be enough. However people have had the option to ignore the cosmetic bonuses of premium tabs (organizational superiority) and still contribute greatly to the game by purchasing additional stash tabs. These people should not be denied pay per perk features that you have not previously offered. These new features would have influenced their purchasing decisions. I feel that at the very least you should offer them the stash tab upgrades at a discount, preferably for at least a week to a month after the release of Ascendancy.

I think that my other objection is that this change seems to go against its own mentality. If you are trying to make the trade system easier and more convenient for the game, it seems very unusual to gate it behind a pay per perk system. If you were advertising it specifically as a way to sell premium stash tabs that is one thing, but it is being advertised as improvements to the trade system itself -- unless it is available to everyone for free it isn't. Although this isn't as big of an objection for the simple reason that people that wish to engage in trading heavily really need more than four stash tabs to begin with. Either that or run multiple accounts to mule.

it s was a bad idee to make it only premium ( i m not even sue if it is ... they made the example on a premium but it is not state it is premium only ... at least i didn t see it). However at the end nothing big changed. All you save is to press alt+tab and make the same thing on the 3rd site programm.

yeah not a big fan of making it go in the P2W direction

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tattoogun wrote:

Procurement worked along couple of years now, never had any problem with and i think other ppl neither. From what the dev's said is pointing out what i said couple of replies before "were not willing to put in the effort to use them" so the ppl want it FREE (even they can get for free but they have to work on like 10 mins or so) and want it NOW, didnt saw any whining about Procurement.

I don't say Procurement doesn't work, I am not whining about it, Procurement is an awesome program if you ask me.

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tattoogun wrote:

The players who want to sell stuffs fast but they simply dont care about to set up Procurement it's their problem and proof for what i said. Simple, you can set it up with 10 mins work and will works without any problem...FOR FREE!

What about players who just want to sell some of their stuff ingame, because to them using a third party program is very uncomfortable ? They have to use trade chat ? Fack them ?

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tattoogun wrote:

It does the same what this system will. As you and the devs also said the refreshing time will be lower....but that not a case to call this game a p2w. You can still get what this tabs offering FOR FREE if you PUT AN EFFORT IN LIKE 10 MINS and set up Procurement. Its your decision!

Well the game is maybe not p2w (yet), but now Poe is definitely not f2p either. We will see if Procurement will survive to this, I'm not sure about that.
To me extra stash tabs were already borderline, and premium tabs confirm the p2w tendency of the game.