I am lucky, therefore game is fine

really, Scrotie?

of all people I would have expected you to understand the thread's aim.

instead, you're either here to troll or worse - that's actually your honest opinion.
I sincerely hope it's the former.
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun
I know how game work
I have realistic expectations
I don't rage like a baby when I don't get toy I want to get

game is fine.
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Game is fine
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johnKeys wrote:
really, Scrotie?

of all people I would have expected you to understand the thread's aim.
Well, technically, I do agree with your core aim: we should not respond to threads of the types Frankenberry enumerated with "look at what I was able to get, game is fine." First, it does not attack the core conspiracy theory at the heart of the tinfoil hat syndrome; no one learns anything as a result, so it is, as you say, just being a contrary ass (see above). Second, and more importantly, I believe the best overall policy in dealing with such threads is to avoid responding to them in any way whatsoever, because tinfoil hat syndrome is usually far too advanced for any type of foruming to be an effective treatment. And yes, I do feel a little hypocritical for posting this.
When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted.
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johnKeys wrote:
really, Scrotie?

of all people I would have expected you to understand the thread's aim.

instead, you're either here to troll or worse - that's actually your honest opinion.
I sincerely hope it's the former.


I remember seeing a post made by you like a year ago that made sense , the rest has been as you accuse scrotie of doing.
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johnKeys wrote:
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Vaux wrote:

Absolutely could not have said it better myself. This whole 'entitled' generation of gamers that thinks everything should be handed to them without having to work for it makes me sick.


and comments like yours make me sick.
I bet I was playing a decade before you were conceived, and I'm far from being the oldest Path Of Exile player. so show some damn respect before spewing out "entitled generation" bullshit.
"kid".

I made this thread about how much "I'm lucky, game is fine, git gud" posts make me rage, and here you are with something even more fkn disgusting.
I'm sure you're fkn proud of yourself.


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Frankenberry wrote:

I think to a much higher degree could be made the other way around: "I am unlucky, therefore something is wrong with the game".

In general a huge part of this community could learn a lot from the E-Sports ideal mentality "I lost. This is my fault. How can I avoid making this mistake in the future?". Often the mentality here is more like "I failed. This is not my fault. Something must be wrong with the game. I shouldn't try to do something different. I should advocate a change to the game".


I respect you disagreeing, and you put some valid points - but I think your reasons and explanations to some of those points, aren't valid at all.

is losing always your fault? always due to making a mistake?
does being unlucky/screwed never imply something is wrong about some aspect of the game?
of course not. don't be ridiculous.
your post is more bragging about how good you are, than a realistic view.


So you're a 50 year old gamer then? That's awesome! I can see why you jumped so quickly to the defensive, being a grown adult associating with such an adolescent group. I don't need to show anyone who comes to the forums complaining about nonsense like this any ounce of respect, regardless of their age. There you go again thinking you are entitled to my respect because of some arbitrary number.

First of all, you're right - stating that the game is fine because of your own fortune is a silly statement. Raging about it, however, is equally if not more immature and outright stupid.

At the heart of the issue, these people making you rage are correct, because, just because you have had terrible misfortune (So you claim? So people that cannot clear end-game content claim?) and blame that for the sole reason you cannot complete end-game content, does NOT make the game broken. As I stated, ARPGs have always had a massive aspect of RNG involved, don't expect this to change. It was never and never will be an issue.

MMORPGs have changed to cater to the casual, carebear-type mentality/player. Maybe you should try playing one of those.

In this game, YES. Losing is ALWAYS your fault, if you're playing the correct content for your gear-level. There is not one possible scenario you can describe where you can't think back and say, 'Maybe if I did x, y and z I could have beat that boss, finished that map, etc..' If you have mediocre gear and try to do the hardest content in the game, you're setting yourself up for failure - do you see guilds in WoW attempting the hardest raids the second they ding 100? No, they run heroics to get pre-raid equipment, then run the easiest raids and work their way up.

But guess what, this isn't a modern-day MMORPG, you don't get guaranteed gear. You have to play ALL aspects of the game and work the system to work your way to the top and get the best gear. It's possible for EVERYONE to do, regardless of how good/bad their 'RNG luck' is.
IGN Nellz
PoE isn't checkers, you can't 'lose' at PoE.
~ Please separate the PoE1 and PoE2 forums.
first of all Vaux, if the game was as perfectly fine as you claim and all unpleasant experiences were avoidable / results of player error, then no one would have ever died from a glitch, freeze, crash, desync, re-sync, Lockstep halt etc', or got screwed out of loot/progression by any of the above.
heck, those are the reasons the game is completely unplayable for me in HC right now - and although I'm an SC player at heart, I just hate to see my HC chars just sit there and not logging on to them.
technical issues right now are actually worse than ever before, for me. and that includes Open Beta where the game actually had a right to be unstable.

oh and no one would have ever have died to some crap cheap unavoidable one-shot mechanic, even GGG admitted was too much and nerfed the hell out of, 2 days later.
unless they could fkn play in super-slow-motion like in the fkn Matrix, and see a few seconds into the future.

that's why I call complete bullshit on the "all is a result of player error" part of the "game is fine" theory, which you and Frankenberry so proudly and so foolishly represent.
if I go to "full elitist" mode, I'd say "most". but "all" isn't even elitist. it's stupid.

second, I'm not an MMORPG player. I only tried one (Lineage it was, I think) for a couple hours and couldn't quite get into it.

I'm a fan of RPG, Dungeon Crawlers (recent: the outstanding Legend Of Grimrock series), Quests, H&S ARPG (Diablo and TQ being notable examples), "tactical" D&D like Baldur's Gate (recent: Pillars Of Eternity).
those are the standards by which I look at Path Of Exile.
so let me tell you something about RNG: none of the above use RNG like PoE does. many have it in the game obviously, but none "worship" it. design the entire game around it. treat it as an end rather than a means to one.

and what happens when the all-mighty RNG doesn't deem you worthy, even after thousands of hours and hundreds of successful encounters vs. some really scary shit?
well you have to "work the system" as you put it, right? do whatever it takes to "git gud" despite not being RNG's favourite disciple.

well I'm not here to "work the system". I'm here to fkn kill monsters like you are fkn supposed to do in an ARPG, and get pissed off again and again over the fact, just doing so isn't really worth anything in this game.
and I'm not alone in this "silly" mind set.

so when you see us "silly" old ARPG players not "working the system", like you think everyone is supposed to - please show some god damned respect and sympathy, or hell just think for a few seconds before using that BS "git gud, game is fine" argument that drives me up the fkn wall.
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun
I am unlucky and game is fine

dont think its one of these either
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johnKeys wrote:
first of all Vaux, if the game was as perfectly fine as you claim and all unpleasant experiences were avoidable / results of player error, then no one would have ever died from a glitch, freeze, crash, desync, re-sync, Lockstep halt etc', or got screwed out of loot/progression by any of the above.
heck, those are the reasons the game is completely unplayable for me in HC right now - and although I'm an SC player at heart, I just hate to see my HC chars just sit there and not logging on to them.
technical issues right now are actually worse than ever before, for me. and that includes Open Beta where the game actually had a right to be unstable.

oh and no one would have ever have died to some crap cheap unavoidable one-shot mechanic, even GGG admitted was too much and nerfed the hell out of, 2 days later.
unless they could fkn play in super-slow-motion like in the fkn Matrix, and see a few seconds into the future.

that's why I call complete bullshit on the "all is a result of player error" part of the "game is fine" theory, which you and Frankenberry so proudly and so foolishly represent.
if I go to "full elitist" mode, I'd say "most". but "all" isn't even elitist. it's stupid.

second, I'm not an MMORPG player. I only tried one (Lineage it was, I think) for a couple hours and couldn't quite get into it.

I'm a fan of RPG, Dungeon Crawlers (recent: the outstanding Legend Of Grimrock series), Quests, H&S ARPG (Diablo and TQ being notable examples), "tactical" D&D like Baldur's Gate (recent: Pillars Of Eternity).
those are the standards by which I look at Path Of Exile.
so let me tell you something about RNG: none of the above use RNG like PoE does. many have it in the game obviously, but none "worship" it. design the entire game around it. treat it as an end rather than a means to one.

and what happens when the all-mighty RNG doesn't deem you worthy, even after thousands of hours and hundreds of successful encounters vs. some really scary shit?
well you have to "work the system" as you put it, right? do whatever it takes to "git gud" despite not being RNG's favourite disciple.

well I'm not here to "work the system". I'm here to fkn kill monsters like you are fkn supposed to do in an ARPG, and get pissed off again and again over the fact, just doing so isn't really worth anything in this game.
and I'm not alone in this "silly" mind set.

so when you see us "silly" old ARPG players not "working the system", like you think everyone is supposed to - please show some god damned respect and sympathy, or hell just think for a few seconds before using that BS "git gud, game is fine" argument that drives me up the fkn wall.


thats a lot of wordspewing to get out 1 point , only thing i do in this game is kill shit fast and put up stuff via aquisition , works fine for me , but i guess i have just been lucky for 3 years now . I have had one mfchar for a one week race and my legacy Rfchar in hc have as much mf as possible aswell as i like to collect uniques from old sctemp leagues.

Otherwise i just kill shit in every league , i don't die to silly one shot mechanics , i dont die to lagspikes and i make enough currency to gear out my chars with what i want, once again John (as i have repeated for so many years now) you just troll these forums with your superbiased opinions cause you are just really bad at the game.

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