[Outdated] Zivko's CI Chaos Incinerate build - 200k dps / 10 000 ES
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This is a full chaos damage incinerate build guide.
It can do all map mods. In patch 2.2 damage was buffed considerably and build also gets more ES and stun immunity on when full ES 2.2 Atziri run - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJUpNiXxjLg _________________________________________________________________________________________ Build is fully updated for 2.2 If you're looking for totem version of the build, Covenant has made a hybrid life+es version you can check here - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1628577 If you're looking for a guide starting as a shadow, check Grocery's guide here - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1375643 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MnkZt_U9cI - A video build overview which Grocery recorded. This was recorded on 2.0 version of the game, build changed a bit since then. Grocery's youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/user/andypistone/ Make sure you check rest of his builds if you have time! Thoughts on the build from Haderach99, who was playing it on Tempest - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1354469/page/9 _________________________________________________________________________________________ Q & A
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Is the build Atziri vialbe? -Yes. Check Video section.
Is the build newbie friendly? - I would not recommend it for a first time player. How expensive is the build? - It's a cheap build. Except Infernal Mantle and Consuming Dark, everything you use can be self found. Those 2 uniques can be acquired for less then 30c. You don't need more then a 5L to do all game content at decent clear speed. Whats the dps? -Atm ~105k LMP at last stage in a 6L infernal mantle (and around 100k dot dmg from poison). Experience players can play with a 4L mantle, i did Atziri on TalismanSC with a 4L mantle and lvl18 gems without quality. I dont recommend playing the build without life leech gem thou, especially if you're a newer player or never played similar ci build before. If you want to be safe, 5L chest is mandatory. Is it tanky? -Yes, as long as it's leeching. With current gear build has ~10 000ES and 5000-6000 ES/sec leech against single target (depending on chaos and curse resistance). Gimmie the list of free map mods (mods that provide quantity and rarity, but don't affect the build)? - physical reflect - elemental reflect - elemental equilibrium - desecrated ground - poison on hit - monsters resist 40/60/80% fire/cold/lightning/physical damage In addition to that, build is also immune to thornflesh, reflect from mirror Atziri, reflect on rare monsters, elemental resistance auras on rare monsters, chaos bond bloodline packs and zombies that leave chaos clouds on death. How much does this build cost? If you're on a budget and dont mind only getting 60k dps and 8k ES, you can get this build going for up to 5ex.
Current warbands item prices
5L infernal mantle - 1ex
Eye of Cahyula - 1ex Consuming dark - up to 1ex Wanderlust - 1c 300ES sheild - up to 10c (depending on resistances) 250ES helm - up to 10c (depending on resistances) 100ES gloves - up to 10c (depending on resistances) Rings - this varies a lot, i recommend spending 20c on one ring with good resistances (no other stats needed) and a couple chaos on an elreon ring Belt - look for good resistances, no other stats needed, up to 10c Dont buy any gems other then empower (and enlighten if you want to use AA too). Buy them at level 1 as they will reach lvl 2 long before you complete the build Would this build be better as low life instead of CI? Only with legacy Consuming Dark, with nerf to damage conversion ci is definitely a better choice. Is unique jewel Hungry Abyss good for this build? Only if you're using Vessel of Vinktar instead of Atziri's Promis. Read why its not good without Vinktar here: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1354469/page/16/#p11420160 Is unique ring Emberwake or Fire Penetration gem good for this build? With a non legacy Consuming Dark, Emberwake is probably good for the build, but i have not tried to incorporate it. Feel free to give it a shot if you have it and have a way of sustaining mana cost. Why not use Blood Ragee? Build depends on Vaal Pact for life leech which means it's impossible to get regeneration to outregenerate Blood Rage degen. For mapping it can be used in conjunction with Vile Bastion, but i dont think it's necessary and it could put you in dangerous situations. Why not use Blood Dance or Herald of Ice/Herald of Thunder/Anger? My personal opinion is that build does enough damage and has fast enough clear speed to not need any dps boosts. It's better to run Discipline and Arctic Armour then lose survivability by replacing defensive auras or ES boots with slightly more dps Heralds or Anger or Blood Dance would provide. lvl 20 anger gives me ~3k dps, which is only noticeable during boss fights, but since they already die really fast, i dont recommend it. _________________________________________________________________________________________ 2.2 Videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJUpNiXxjLg - Atziri full run (Apex of Sacrifice 2.1 Videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVBmxlPiJ20 - Atziri full run (Apex of Sacrifice) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYuKKB3xfE - Atziri run without life leech gem
2.0 Videos
Videos - recorded by me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nME6q2trnEU - Atziri full run (Apex) - old gear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk1-dHu8obg - Atziri with 5L +1 mantle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gzVkO82lF4 - Double Vaal with RF on low life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqLUOvs1hbg - Strand full run https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGQU-XmO6EI - Olmec's Sanctum full run https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zyV_F-haC8 - Torture Chamber boss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzHUGqMUCzs - Waste Pool boss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY1Pc7WdZTk - Jungle Valley boss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wm70Ch6x0s - Cells boss Higher level maps with commentary recorded by Grocery: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEMf_gKUdNU - Vulcano https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dkfHDi887A - Arid Lake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZMf8b4KYko - Wasteland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SROxlwsQ9A - Village Ruin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDnoeyTluyM - Malformation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXu8D95f9kY - Waterways You can also check some other new map runs on his video channel. _________________________________________________________________________________________ DPS and Defense stats
6L Tooltip with LMP and Ele Overload
 Incinerate is lvl 21 and Void manipulation and Controlled destruction are still leveling (lvl15)
6L Tooltip with Faster Projectiles and Ele overload
Defensive Stats (lvl21 Discipline, lvl20 Arctic Armour
 Damage Explenation: Tooltip dps needs to be multiplied by x2.5 to get dps at last stage (incinerate deals 150% more damage at last stage). Poison DoT gets scaled by damage, chaos damage and projectile damage modifiers and multiplied by Void Manipulation. Build deals roughly 100k poison DoT once Incinerate hits last stage (it takes 3 casts to reach next stage and 12 to reach last stage, meaning last stage is reached after ~1sec). _________________________________________________________________________________________ Build enabling unique items Consuming Dark gives 50% fire dmg converted to fire. Legacy converts 75% of damage to chaos and it's better if you can get a hold of that one, but build functions just as fine with non-legacy version. Infernal Mantle gives 25% fire dmg converted to fire. Early in the league any 5L es chest is good since life leech gem is mandatory after incinerate nerf, and 4L does not have enough damage to use a 3L incinerate + life leech. If you want to play 100% chaos damage conversion in new leagues, you still can. While dual wielding Consuming Darks and 680ES chest instead of Infernal Mantle i still get 9.2k ES (so only around 1k ES is lost). Damage loss from +1 to Fire Gems Infernal mantle provides can be regained by using Anger which you can do with a bit of reduced aura reservation on the tree and Enlighten. Optional unique items: Chayula provides stun immunity, you can use it if you dont feel safe just taking witch interruption from stun avoidance nodes and Vile Bastion. Wanderlust and Dream Frags provide freeze immunity. They are not needed thou, sapphire flask with dispell freeze and freeze immunity works as long as you have enough charges on it. Rest of the gear: Rare items with lots of es, spell damage and cast speed (if you have enough regen to support it). Check gear section to see what i'm currently using. _________________________________________________________________________________________ Passive Skill tree Bandits Normal - Kill all for skill point. Cruel - Help Alira for 5% cast speed or kill all for skill point. Merciless - Kill all (or help Oak if you plan on using Enduring Cry) Ascendancy - Occultist Normal - pick Wicked Ward Cruel - pick Vile Bastion Merciless - pick Void Beacon _________________________________________________________________________________________ Skill Gem Setup Incinerate needs to be socketed inside 5L Infernal Mantle. Incinerate + Lesser Multiple Projectiles + Controlled Destruction + Reduced mana + Life Leech If you get 6L, use Void Manipulation as a 6th link. It provides more damage then any other gem. If you've played the build before and are comfortable playing without Life Leech, just relaying on Warlords Mark and Atziri's Promise, you can use 4L Incinerate + LMP + Void Manipulation + Controlled Destruction if you can support it on mana with clarity and elreon rings. *** Orb of Storms - can be socketed anywhere. When ever you fight bosses, rares or larger more difficult packs cast orb to proc Elemental Overload. *** Wither needs a 2L, spell totem is only required link, but if you can fit it in 3L add FC. Wither + Spell Totem + Faster Casting *** Auras can be socketed anywhere. Discipline + Arctic Armour Nothing else benefits this build, except Clarity which you'll need to support Incinerate on mana early on, before you get cost of casting to 0. *** Movement - you need 2L for Whirling Blades + Faster attacks, Flame Dash can be anywhere. I have them both in a 4L. Whirling Blades + Faster Attacks + Fortify + Flame Dash Whirling Blades doesn't need to be linked to Fortify, but its nice to get that 20% less dmg buff every now and then as you whirl around. Your movement skill will also help to proc Elemental Overload. *** Defenses - wherever you can fit them. Summon Chaos Golem - You can self cast it, i have it linked to cast when damage taken. Warlord+s Mark + Tempest Shield If you have room for it, its always nice to support those 3 skills with increased duration. _________________________________________________________________________________________ Defenses Main defense mechanic is Vaal Pact Life Leech. With Life leech gem, Warlords Mark and Atziri's promise it's possible to achieve 6% life leech against normal monsters and up to 4.8% life leech against map bosses (bosses, rare and magic monsters have reduced curse effectiveness so Warlord's Mark is Less effective against them) Build currently has 42,7k DPS tooltip with LMP and Elemental Overload. At last stage, that is 106,7k DPS. Assuming no chaos resistance on monsters and assuming the monster is a map boss, effective leech against 1 monster would be ~5000-6000 ES per second (depending on curse effectiveness) Against 2 monsters that doubles. And so on. I have experimented with Stone of Lazhwar, Rainbowstride and Rathpit Globe. With Rumi's Concoction build can reach max spell block for the duration of the flask effect Rumi's provides. I have since dropped that setup as it is not needed, high amount of Energy Shield and Life Leech is all defenses this build needs. Only improvement i recommend you make if you have the currency is a corrupted +1 curse amulet to allow adding Enfeeble as a 2nd curse. _________________________________________________________________________________________ Infernal Mantle and low mana You reach low mana when you hit 35% of your total mana. In example, if you have 1000 mana, you are considered to be at low mana when you have 350 mana or less. That means that when you use your skills you have to stay above 35% of your mana at all times, otherwise spells that hit you will deal 100% more damage. Is this a problem? Not really. Running Disciplines reserves 35% of the mana, meaning 30% of the mmana is left for Arctic Armour or Clarity and casting skills. As long as you have enough mana regen or manage to get incnerate to cost 0 mana using elreon rings and reduced mana support gem, you will never hit low mana. _________________________________________________________________________________________ Current mapping and Atziri farming gear
Weapon and Armour
Jewelery
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https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/ogrec/characters - character named ComebackWitch _________________________________________________________________________________________ Luxury upgrades If you can get +1 gems 6L Infernal Mantle, it would provide a huge damage boost. Skyforth and Vile bastion make you near stun immune.
Old 2.1 items
Try corrupting a +1 to socketed gems Infernal Manlte, it increases dps more then just lvl2 empower, while not adding extra multiplier to mana cost of Incinerate. If you're using Wanderlust for freeze immunity, you can also corrupt that item for +1 to socketed gems and keep auras in there (Enlighten, Discipline, Clarity, Arctic Armour). Chance of +1 to socketed gems spawning on an item is 2.58%. That means on Average you need to corrupt ~40 items to get that corruption mod. Here is a screenshot of my rip tab before i got to +1 gems mantle. I got it after 20 only corruptions which is incredibly lucky.
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 Last edited by ogrec on Jun 6, 2016, 9:56:26 AM Last bumped on Jun 6, 2016, 3:10:08 PM
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Am I out of the loop? Didn't they change Incinerate to no longer work with Spell Echo?
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" No, people misread the patch notes about it not working with Flameblast. | |
" They came to their sences... if it didnt work with spell echo, skill would be useless bcoz of high mana cost: My lvl 19 incinerate requires 220 mana regen with 15% reduced cost. Normally it would cost 480 mana per sec to sustain it. It's impossible to get such numbers even with leech. Same goes for blood magic version. 1000 life per sec. IGN: PojzonAbyss [3.2] Immortal Indigon Poet's Pen Hirophant - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2129766 [3.1] Yamata No Orochi - Oni-Goroshi Jugg http://poeurl.com/bHB9 [2.4] The True Queen Of The Forest - Poison LA/BR Pathfinder http://poeurl.com/M6u [Retired] Last edited by eragon1111 on Jul 25, 2015, 5:24:13 PM
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Looks pretty solid so far.
I rolled an incinerate witch last league before shotgun was nerfed and it was one of my favorites. I was able to nab a consuming dark dagger just now before it starts spiking like death's hand did >_>. Will come back to post results once I get time to level my char and see how it works out. | |
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is reflect the only reason you grab consuming dark? it seems like using a doryani's catalyst gives me more leech and i still don't have a problem against reflect.
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Hey I was wondering if this is still possible if I start as a ranger.
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Hi, just had a quick question.
You say the tooltip DPS is 15k and at stage 4 it's 60k but doesn't incinerate only have 3 stages? | |
" the damage is still multiplied by 4 |
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Hi there, great looking build definitely going to give this a try.
Just a quick question, I know you don't have a leveling guide but roughly what level do you suggest going CI and how much ES is a healthy amount? Thanks :D |
