General Discussion - Didn't Chris say that they wouldn't introduce new higher tier item mods? - Forum

Oh I chose the wrong couple of days to ignore the forums... Don't stress old friends! Sit back and enjoy the show Recruiting for Archnemesis League/Siege of the Atlas! Umbra Exiles: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3244875 The Official Path of Exile Guild Directory: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1192567	Posted by StDrakeX#2331 on Jun 18, 2015, 9:28:20 AM Quote this Post
" GnGEmpire wrote: I'm pretty sure he said so in more than one occasion in the past, correct me if I'm wrong. This means 2 things: 1. Chris's words mean nothing 2. Even if chris didn't say that, what kind of company has GGG become? Shtting on all of their veteran players who invested so much of their time and effort to aquire BiS items only to find them no longer so. And it's not even a change that was needed. People trivialized uber atziri which is the hardest content in the game with gear far less good than the current BiS and yet they introduce even higher tier mods and de-evaluate people's efforts. Also, this will primarily effect the standard league and hardly at all the temporary league which makes it seem simply like a move designed to hurt those who invested everything to aquire the best. If they go through with this change I'm out for good, and I realize that the majority of the players aren't the type who are wealthy enough ingame to be hurt by this and so they either couldn't care less or are happy to see the wealthy players get shat on because it makes them feel better about themselves, But those who are honest with themselves will know I'm right. So that's it, I've only written this post to get it off my chest. Good day. I am one of the most affected players of these new t1 mods too. Means I am not wealthy enough to earn orbs by doing nothing and crafting mass mirror items etc., but wealthy enough to own and have worked for several top tier items that I wont be able to replace with the new t1 any soon. Anyway I am pretty sure the following things are true: 1) It was too easy to craft 6xt1 items as any item type with demand for it had their 6xtier1 item already. 2) GGG, if intelligent enough, will not move the probability of old brackets down one tier each but include the probability of a new t1 roll in the probability of the old tier1 roll. Means: If old t1 roll was 1%, then the new will be 0.2% and the old stays at 0.8%. If they do it like this, it will be incredible hard to roll 6x tier ((=5x more orbs needed), which should be the goal of such a major change) on a new item AND the general value of old items is going to stay more or less the same for a long time. I am pretty sure it will be done this way. There are alot of benefits for the game in general when GGG uses exactly this mechanic such as buffing drops vs crafts* what makes identifying items from the ground more attractive e.g. Therefore I appreciate the change. Greetings Last edited by LSN#3878 on Jun 18, 2015, 10:34:21 AM	Posted by LSN#3878 on Jun 18, 2015, 10:21:32 AM Quote this Post
Agree, fade. C'mon, let's hold hands while we walk over the minefield! The Sirus fight is a disgrace. Last edited by ghamadvar#7236 on Jun 18, 2015, 10:35:25 AM	Posted by ghamadvar#7236 on Jun 18, 2015, 10:35:16 AM Quote this Post
" StDrakeX wrote: Oh I chose the wrong couple of days to ignore the forums... Don't stress old friends! Sit back and enjoy the show This is like that time the hobo that lives in our area thought he was rich cause he had a bag full of empty cans nobody wanted ^_^ Behold my wealth peasants!! Spoiler Don't forget to drink your milk 👌 Last edited by TheWretch#7848 on Jun 18, 2015, 12:05:12 PM	Posted by TheWretch#7848 on Jun 18, 2015, 12:03:11 PM Quote this Post
" FadeXF wrote: I think when you argue D3 invalidating gear vs POE - that must be some kind of sick twisted joke. Ancient gear is so attainable vs any gear in POE. Adding new tiers in D3 is actually hugely enjoyable because you know for a fact that you will then actually get new gear drops that will replace your old gear - making it fun and exciting. POE is vastly different when they starve you of carrot. =/ Again: sick - crazy - demented joke to compare Ancient gear to this. And I'm not finding the funny. I think it must have gotten lost in translation or something. Given that people are talking about mirrored items, you should make the comparison using the items of the same tier in D3. I'm not that informed, but shouldn't you talk about the likehood of getting something like...a well rolled Ancient Furnace? What's the likehood? How attanaible is? At that point people would actually start to get pissed off. Add a Forsaken Masters questline https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2297942	Posted by NeroNoah#1010 on Jun 18, 2015, 3:54:17 PM Quote this Post
You somewhat evaded my question. What's tier 1 in D3 and how easy is to get? PS: also, the comparisons made in this thread are more about the jump from vanilla to ROS, where almost every item become totally useless. Again, feel free to correct me. Add a Forsaken Masters questline https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2297942 Last edited by NeroNoah#1010 on Jun 18, 2015, 4:29:27 PM	Posted by NeroNoah#1010 on Jun 18, 2015, 4:28:23 PM Quote this Post
Disliking the game is one thing. You have the right to your own opinion. Calling it sick and twisted etc. is going a bit far though. If you really dislike it that much, maybe this isn't the game for you. Personally I think D3 goes way too far in the other direction of completely trivializing everything. "Legendary" items dropping every couple minutes and being able to get a full set of the best gear for your class(let alone the fact that there is ONE almost undisputed best set of gear for each class in the first place...) within a couple days, leaving you with little room for improvement beyond simply increasing all the numbers...takes all the sense of accomplishment out of it when you finally do get that set of gear you want. And there's no excitement when your 245th legendary item of the day drops.	Posted by Hodari#7574 on Jun 18, 2015, 4:31:05 PM Quote this Post
" FadeXF wrote: " NeroNoah wrote: You somewhat evaded my question. What's tier 1 in D3 and how easy is to get? PS: also, the comparisons made in this thread are more about the jump from vanilla to ROS, where almost every item become totally useless. Again, feel free to correct me. They jumped a tier with ancient gear very recently. And it was widely accepted. I didn't read 1 QQ post on the forums, only people super excited to be able to find more - bad ass loot. Tier 1 can be anything you want really - it depends on the build. Take for example my Wizard I picked up again about a week ago now - so I want to get all of the Tal's set - all 6 pieces - I don't really care too much at this stage if it's ancient or not. I started with no Tal's items. Zero. As of right now I am 5/6 Tal's (2/6 is ancient) - the amulet is holy shit bad roll but meh - I want the set bonus at this stage. In that same time frame, I now have 4/6 of each of the other 2 Wizard sets - am using part of one - basically when I want to switch around I have all of those pieces. 1.5>2 weeks - 3 hours a night playing for this. There ultimately is zero comparison between the two games. I was happy as shit getting Tyranical on bows that I rerolled like jesus... I lost count.... can't tell you how many Alts I threw at this for example: Spoiler I ended up saying: F it this is probably the best I'll see in my lifetime - and it's still a POS: Spoiler But how much currency I threw at it? Who knows. Lost count. It's a POS now, but guess how much more of a POS it just became? Yeaaaah.... That's the thing man - you are comparing my TIME in POE for rewards vs my TIME in D3 for rewards - and like I said: PLEASE bring new tiers to D3 every 12 months. PRETTY PLEASE. But POE? Don't... for the love of everything awesome... please... never again... there is a reason the patch is called 2.0 and not 1.4. also, that multimod bow needs crit chance and not attack speed	Posted by likejaxirl#5511 on Jun 18, 2015, 4:44:01 PM Quote this Post
" FadeXF wrote: I think when you argue D3 invalidating gear vs POE - that must be some kind of sick twisted joke. Ancient gear is so attainable vs any gear in POE. Adding new tiers in D3 is actually hugely enjoyable because you know for a fact that you will then actually get new gear drops that will replace your old gear - making it fun and exciting. POE is vastly different when they starve you of carrot. =/ Again: sick - crazy - demented joke to compare Ancient gear to this. And I'm not finding the funny. I think it must have gotten lost in translation or something. dude go farm up a well rolled ancient star metal kukri and get back to us ok? and then realize that you do indeed have to farm it, you cant trade for it, cant have a buddy find it and give it to ya, etc. it is present in d3 too, even with silly amounts of drops, there is gear you may never ever find, build enabling gear, gear you need to reach the highest echelons of the game. Hey...is this thing on? Last edited by LostForm#2813 on Jun 18, 2015, 5:21:34 PM	Posted by LostForm#2813 on Jun 18, 2015, 5:17:40 PM Quote this Post
@FadeXF: The ancient item thing is not a good comparison. I've already said it. Vanilla to ROS. And I can remember a lot of complaining about ancient items anyway. Did we read the same forums? Also, set items are not the hardest items to get anyway. PS: I think this thread will go places from now, XD Add a Forsaken Masters questline https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2297942 Last edited by NeroNoah#1010 on Jun 18, 2015, 5:23:41 PM	Posted by NeroNoah#1010 on Jun 18, 2015, 5:23:20 PM Quote this Post