Kinetic blast/Tornado Shot - You broke your own rule
" The ONLY case. Both Kinectic Blast and Frost Wall scale with each other because of Crown of Eyes, otherwise, you would only use Frost Wall (no dps) for the sake of using it for KB to centralize it's AoE explosion in open areas for pure single target damage. I replied out of context because I forgot that build was using Crown of Eyes, otherwise the rest of my post would be correct (which I deleted). It just so happens my previous post still looks awkward. Sometimes you can take the game out of the garage but you can't take the garage out of the game. - raics, 06.08.2016 Last edited by JohnNamikaze#6516 on Jan 10, 2015, 5:51:48 PM
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dont underestimate ele damage modifier. if he doesnt skill spell damage he might skill ele damage to again scale frost walls.
both base damage from the heralds increase any spell to a dmg height that can be considered enough for crit builds | |
" I am aware of what ele dmg modifier can do to these type of builds, because I have an elemental crit wander build myself, though the only herald I am using in this build is Herald of Ice because Anger/Wrath took most of my reserves. :3 Edit: Though, my build mostly benefit from my gears (including Piscator),gems like WED & FA to scale damage, auras like Anger/Wrath, and my tree is focused on the normal crit nodes and wand damage (some with attack speed). Those stuff would not help out Frost Wall much at all. I only took KB + PS into consideration, not KB + FW. Sometimes you can take the game out of the garage but you can't take the garage out of the game. - raics, 06.08.2016 Last edited by JohnNamikaze#6516 on Jan 10, 2015, 6:39:59 PM
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" why would you link gmp to split arrow? Tornado has a free 'fork/chain' blah blah, split arrow has a free gmp. Hence they both need 1 damage nerf gem to preform in a similar manner. This is why many people thinking split arrow is the stronger of the 2 skills, because chain is more consistent shotgunning. The fact that some experience players put a number of other bow skills above tornado shot says it all, if its debatable that it's even the best bow skill how is it so overpowered compared to other bow skills that theres a problem? I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :)
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"Split arrow and Lightning arrow have 80 and 70% damage effectiveness. Their less modifier is 20% and 30%. Ranger builds list: /917964 When two witches watch two watches, which witch watches which watch? If the witches watching watches watch the same watch while you watch which witch watches which watch, they switch watches; then, the watch switching witches watch which watch you watch. Watching witches watch watches is not for the faint of heart... Last edited by Panini_aux_olives#1967 on Jan 11, 2015, 9:43:43 AM
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" Forgive my mis-typing? You are correct, though my math and conclusions should still be correct as well...I just fumbled my phrasing. Dyslexia sucks :/ "If you’re incompetent, you can’t know you’re incompetent. […] the skills you need to produce a right answer are exactly the skills you need to recognize what a right answer is." ~David Dunning
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" Frost Wall does have 100% damage effectiveness, so Herald of Ice and Herald of Thunder is a big damage boost to it. |
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Regarding Tornado Shot
You're comparing it to lightning arrow which has a 70% damage modifier, vs tornado shot with 119%?? TS is an AOE with only 10% less damage than a single target skill and 10x more range than LA arcs. Not only that, it doesn't require a hit to proc the AOE portion of the attack allowing you to shotgun single targets with more damage than what is possible with a single target skill! It has implicit pierce, extra projectile fork, a 'more' damage multiplier and single target shotgun capabilities. Please show me any similar skill. Regarding KB Frost wall is mostly there for the insane multiplying effect it has with pierce, as they stack up and let you clusterbomb single targets to oblivion. DPS when combined with CoC frostwall probably reaches the millions after a few attacks. I'll also add that similar skills have been modified to avoid this behavior. Poison arrow clouds are released on each pierce/chain but do not overlap and stack. Fireball + chain does not release explosions on each chain, only doing it's AOE damage when the projectile expires. Arctic Breath functions the same way. P̯̹̙̥̉̏ͦͯA̠̝̰̣̯͕͚̲̭͈̥̠͑̓̿ͦ̾ͯ̍ͅͅȚ̜̦͕̞̞̠̮͎͔͙͔̺̺͉̟̿̿̏ͬ͛͋̍ͮ̌̚H̹͕͚̟͍̘̤̱̻̬͓̬̮̫̦͖̳̹ͮͨ̒̉ͮ̿̈ͪ̇̿͆ͭ̃ͭ̃ͭ̚ ̲̫̞̤͓̳͑ͬ̾͌ͯ͐͂̿͗ͨ͋͑̍͐͗̾̄O͕̮̻͔̳̠͉͖̳͖͈̻͇͈̣̙̪͈ͨ͐̒̽ͣ̋ͅF̣͎̞̞̯̝ͦ͌̆ͥ̈͐̾ͣ̔ͮ̐̀̏ͪ̚ ̟̩͙̙̩̮̻̼ͬ͑ͥͦ͗̿E̼̭̩̜͕̱̤̭̞͖̳͍̝̤̼͓̗ͩͫ̌ͬ̊̋̄͑͗̽X͕̰̪̱̲̩̙̦͓͓̯̠̤̝̝̯̣̥̀̋̌̍̚Ȉ̖̟͔̩̝̊̿ͪͅL̺͓̻̰̀͋̅ͮͧE͔̼͚͕̮̻̟̩̪̖̫̪̦͙̎̑͆̏ͨͅ Last edited by lukeiy#6623 on Jan 11, 2015, 10:14:11 PM
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