Elreon multiple crafting mod is broken?

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sam_handler wrote:

I Really dont get it? I thought this master only specializes in rings and amulets? Then you can craft his lvl 8 "can have multiple crafting mod" in a weapon?
But not even a specific weapon, any freaking weapon you want. I mean seriously?

But it's useful only for crafting weapons and ES pieces, because it takes SUFFIX. Items for life-based build value suffixes far higher, then prefixes (usually only good life roll is enough).

But you dont just spend a suffix slot, you also insert at best MEDIOCRE mods, far from perfect.

What's wrong in crafting a mid-tier weapon? Some weapons, though, get too high benefit from flat physical damage (wands, bows and daggers, in the first place), so they may become quite powerful with such a craft. But the solution should be changing flat damage affix mechanics, imo.

I agree, elreon mod is another big mistake made by the devteam, on the same rank with allowing kalandras and eternals ingame.

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Metronomy wrote:

Its very powerful, yes, but it is nowhere near as powerful as a weapon could be.

It's tier 2 vs tier 1 so I'd say its pretty close.

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mobutu wrote:

I agree, elreon mod is another big mistake made by the devteam, on the same rank with allowing kalandras and eternals ingame.

I disagree with this assessment - anyone can use the elreon mod. I would say that if someone was to reach level ~85 and require an endgame weapon they could probably craft one self-found even.

Eternals and mirrors on the other hand are usable by perhaps 1% and tend to skew power towards those 1% causing a 'lil power inbalance. The elreon mod on the other hand, guarantees an OP weapon or ring or whatever to players at the appropriate stage.

This does a lot of work evening out the disparity between attack and caster builds as casters often need nothing but gem levels to do their work whereas attack based builds are almost reliant on the weapon.

100% agree with dragon well said.


some of you guys are out of touch and think you should have to play thousands of hours to have a single GG part. Meanwhile kripp was gg in a week and doing 32 greaterrifts in ros. Both are rediculous. PoE is in a good spot in the middle with masters.

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

What's wrong in crafting a mid-tier weapon?

nothing


these are not mid tier weapons, they are not GG weapons, these are god tier weapons that go beyond anything you will ever loot from playing the game, and if you try and fix it by messing with the mods, you mess with loot too, and the problem there is not helped at all.

It simply must go, its a power creep beyond all reason.

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

What's wrong in crafting a mid-tier weapon?

nothing


these are not mid tier weapons, they are not GG weapons, these are god tier weapons that go beyond anything you will ever loot from playing the game, and if you try and fix it by messing with the mods, you mess with loot too, and the problem there is not helped at all.

It simply must go, its a power creep beyond all reason.

IS a GOD-tier weapon. Go and try crafting that with master mods....

If even a mid-tier weapon makes your character OP, that's either your build is OP or game is too easy.

so by your logic a binos is a low tier weapon? Considering these master crafts are far closer to the weapon you linked than a binos? Come on man, people are crafting 440 pdps daggers with the multimod, your dagger you posted is a 438 pdps, a Binos is a 240 dps dagger...

440 pds dagger is a mid tier weapon, no mate, sry to burst the bubble here but no, you are wrong.

Bino's is already an "endgame" dagger in the sense that you can easily do 78s and atziri with it. The master crafted daggers are outclassing Bino by A LOT and can be considered GG tier.

exactly, not only is a binos an extremely powerful dagger, its the highest pdps + highest crit chance dagger I have ever found in many, many 1000s of hours played, probably 5000 hours. Your chances of finding a 250 pdps rare dagger with crit chance are virtually zero even if you are a no lifer, how can anyone with a straight face say that benching 440 pds crit daggers in the third week of a fresh league does not completely invalidate looting weapons? It invalidates any rare or unique weapon you will ever find, in a game designed around grinding for gear.

I dont mean to offend anyone or be harsh, but I think a lot (not all) of people here are not really comprehending the situation. 'Mid tier weapon' 'decent weapon' 'good weapon' 'build enabling weapon' anyone using these sort of terms to talk about a 440 dps crit dagger clearly does not have a grasp on the item game or is, for whatever reason, being blinded to the truth of the situation. The dagger in the middle of the pic I posted is higher pds than that mirrored dagger Mortal just linked. Is it better? No, the mirrored dagger has higher crit chance and has crit multi, but at the end of the day the benched dagger has higher dps and can only be considered in the same tier of weapons in any sane judgement.

Be real people, your opinions on the mod, for or against, thats your opinion, but be honest about what these weapons are. If you dont have a handle on how powerful a 400 dps crit dagger is relative to the content of this game I would suggest you dont have a handle on this entire topic. To the reader, how many 400 pds 1 handed rare weapons have you looted prior to Forsaken Masters? Think about that.

Thats cos they abused teaming on masters which shouldnt even be allow. Normal player will be lucky to have master at 8 before season end. Also normal player will be lucky to find 2 exa, 1000-5000 alts and 500-1000 regal.

I level two character over 80s no exa, 5 regals hard to say on alts because I make fuse with them.


Anyway with 3-4 months of play I maybe get to make a wand hopefully. Getting a nice CoC wand isnt much to ask after such time frame.