Elreon multiple crafting mod is broken?

chon ur elreon at 8 yet? maybe help me make wand before they lower the boom?

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Aim_Deep wrote:

chon ur elreon at 8 yet? maybe help me make wand before they lower the boom?

Not on your league xD

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Aim_Deep wrote:

chon ur elreon at 8 yet? maybe help me make wand before they lower the boom?

A rival for Foe Bite incoming here :D.

The new crafting is actually amazing. All people can craft and not just the minority of the playerbase. People can get OP gear easily (for the first time they can actually get it at all) and therefore will stay longer in the game.

There is no point in eternal-exalted crafting when 99.9999999999999999999999999% will never be able to do it. Even if you like trading, it's very hard work to collect that much currency. And it's by no means viable, time-wise and energy-wise. But that's another point to discuss...

Fact of a matter is that the new crafting is a pure win. Seeing some of the exalt/eternal horders whine right now makes it even more of a win.

Is it too easy to reach level 8 masters? That depends. Most likely you are correct that it is a little bit too easy right now but it will probably be changed in future seasons.

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Dan1986 wrote:

The new crafting is actually amazing. All people can craft and not just the minority of the playerbase. People can get OP gear easily (for the first time they can actually get it at all) and therefore will stay longer in the game.

There is no point in eternal-exalted crafting when 99.9999999999999999999999999% will never be able to do it. Even if you like trading, it's very hard work to collect that much currency. And it's by no means viable, time-wise and energy-wise. But that's another point to discuss...

Fact of a matter is that the new crafting is a pure win. Seeing some of the exalt/eternal horders whine right now makes it even more of a win.

Is it too easy to reach level 8 masters? That depends. Most likely you are correct that it is a little bit too easy right now but it will probably be changed in future seasons.

You can get OP gear easily and that is a good thing...... lmao, hopefully GGG never listens to these types of people. It's not OK that you can make some of the best gear available from a few hours of dom farming.

Eleron's mod is OP, end of story. It allows people to craft gear that can carry them through any endgame content, even uber atziri, and for 2ex and a few chaos that is just stupid. The master crafting was already strong, but the meta mods are fucking ridiculous, they are by far the worst thing that has ever happened to the game, people already thought eternals were bad, but at least those only really impact Standard where nobody cares. The meta mods have trashed the economy and it's made it incredibly easy to get insane gear that for most people will never need upgrading again, and you can make 2ex in a few hours of dom farming honestly, sounds a lot like D3's itemization to me, but I guess there is so many casuals at this point for that to matter.

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

You literally MUST have specific 5 mods to get a good weapon

lol, no you dont, mate you definitions are so far out of whack. a 250 dps weapon is good regardless of crit, you can get that with 3 mods and none of them need to be top tier.

half those daggers dont even have top tier phys, theres a fair number of them that have benched the flat. 1 divine or 2 exalts is literally no difference at all when it comes to making 300+ dps weapons.


http://poe.trade/search/sigariukakarug


700 es search, no one multimod piece. You know why? Because that mod is shit for ES gear, same reason its shit for armour gear, because the bench mods are nowhere near good enough to make high tier armours with. its a lot easier to find good armour than good weapons because they have much smaller pools of mods, desirable or otherwise.


%es
%es / blockstun hybrid
flat es
fire res
lighning res
cold res

perfect chest combo.

Life and int are also desirable there (at least for some builds). And bad/wrong suffixes isnt even close as bad there as in case of weapon

Also because masters cant add %defence + stun recovery even.

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% armour
flat armour
life
fire res
lightning res
cold res

perfect chest combo

WED
Armour
Life
fire res
lightning res
cold res

perfect belt combo

why do you think it's perfect lol?
There are lots of builds who have no use of WED (all casters)
Armour is really useful only for armour builds.
ES build will want flat ES obviously
I also value Increased Flask charges gained and Reduced Flask charges spend quite highly, and for some builds those mods are FAR better than all others.
Life recovery from flasks is also useful.
Strength can also be useful for those who needs it to match requirements.

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you sure we are playing the same game here? Oh but, you mean..
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I'm sure we arent. Because in PoE, there is NO "one-for-all" perfect combination of mods for all item types. Except for weapons and (to some degree) ES gear.

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OJ8_Graz wrote:

The Elreon multimod on weapons is a dead give away that the rarity of certain weapons that are rolled (e.g Phys Wands and Daggers) has gone down the sink, hence killing the usual REAL crafting that takes A LOT of eternals to at least Half craft a dagger/a phys wand because of the vast mod pool it has compared to other weapons, or that extremely lucky moment when u roll the right mods at drop.


This rarity before FM is a good reason imo why the builds they enable are stronger. Although Elreon just gave everyone and the game a one way ticket to EZtown i suppose.

Vast mod pool you say? There is "cant have caster mods" mod for you. Use it well.

And eternals/exalts can give the best mods possible. Master craft cant.

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

Vast mod pool you say? There is "cant have caster mods" mod for you. Use it well.

And eternals/exalts can give the best mods possible. Master craft cant.

Before FM it is incredibly hard to roll a dagger or a phys wand as a drop. In my entire poe stay, (i have played since domination) not once have i found a dagger thats 300 pdps with or without the mandatory crit, nor a 200 pdps wand.


The normal mods that can be benched are fine imo. a good fix to your weapon that just didnt make it. But get to choose 3 of them in nice brackets? hmmmm..

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Dan1986 wrote:

Fact of a matter is that the new crafting is a pure win. Seeing some of the exalt/eternal horders whine right now makes it even more of a win.

I currently own 1 exalt and 0 eternals across all leagues. I dont horde currency, I only ever acquire enough to buy the next piece of gear I want. Nothing I have said is based off trying to protect my wealth, I dont care about wealth, Im long past that. I do however care about the game.

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

I'm sure we arent. Because in PoE, there is NO "one-for-all" perfect combination of mods for all item types. Except for weapons and (to some degree) ES gear.

this part of what you said isnt correct.


BLACKIECHAN knows whats up, I have faith that GGG do too. The normal master mods are the best thing GGG has done for this game since open beta, and this one multimod is the worst imo.

Facepalm to see people still trying to make out that the problem is Eleron's mods.

The problem is the way phys weapons are rolled. i.e. Weapon base + flat phys + %phys + %phys/acc. It cause a huge disparity between bottom & top end, that is the problem!

Noone is moaning about crafting other items than weapons & only phys weapons at that. Not one person has moaned about triple ele weapons or crafting any other piece of gear.

So please for the love of god can we stop making out that Eleron is the problem, he merely highlights the problem.