General Discussion - Legal Vs. Ethical in HC - Forum

Um you know its legal to use any kind of cheats right? There is no low prohibiting it i use a secret account because i am a politician that doesnt want the NSA to know i play poe.	Posted by DogFaceNoSpace#4931 on Oct 3, 2014, 8:01:25 AM Quote this Post
" Opinionated wrote: Thank you so much. I thought this entire time we were talking about morality of the school systems. On topic though, the problem is the game is not conscience. It has no will. There is no right and wrong according to the game. Therefore, it can not reward or punish based on morality. In the end, this means ethics are determined by GGG (aka legality). If GGG says something is legal, then it is by default good ethically as well. I happen to disagree with some of the ethics GGG has set for the game. Unfortunately, that is 100% my problem. Ironically, it actually becomes wrong for me to convince other people to copy my ethics. So sorry donm3. Even though I share a lot of the ethics you do, we are actually in the wrong. :) edited because i used words incorrectly Multi-Demi Winner Very Good Kisser Alt-Art Alpha’s Howl Winner Former Dominus Multiboxer	Posted by Manocean#0852 on Oct 3, 2014, 8:02:40 AM Quote this Post
" Ezekiel_ wrote: great Rant, important Topic! As a Community we should try to be clear against Stuff like Hacks, Logout-Macros ... especially in HC. But it's hard, in the End most People just look at their own Fun/Success & do not think about the longterm Issues or Moral/Ethics. Greetings, Just for my curiosity, what are the devastating long term moral/ethics shattering effects of logging a character out of a video game using a button? I mean, aside from the obvious side effect that literally zero people in the top 50 of Beyond League are dead. http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/999015 Multi-Demi Winner Very Good Kisser Alt-Art Alpha’s Howl Winner Former Dominus Multiboxer Last edited by Manocean#0852 on Oct 3, 2014, 8:07:03 AM	Posted by Manocean#0852 on Oct 3, 2014, 8:05:52 AM Quote this Post
What about logout scripts on low life. I see many ppl in standard using it. Is this common in hc leagues? It seriously sucks that that many easy access "hacks" are available. Last edited by LSN#3878 on Oct 3, 2014, 8:09:01 AM	Posted by LSN#3878 on Oct 3, 2014, 8:08:15 AM Quote this Post
" DogFaceNoSpace wrote: Um you know its legal to use any kind of cheats right? There is no low prohibiting it No, it isn't. IRL it's prosecuted. In this (and many other) games it's against ToU. The problem is ToU in PoE are quite a vague concept, plus control and prevention are set to zero. That makes people to be up to the philosophical aspects of it, like they matter. This is a buff © 2016 The Experts ™ 2017	Posted by torturo#7228 on Oct 3, 2014, 8:10:51 AM Quote this Post
Hahahaahahha Cheating in videos proscecuted? You are totally mad man i use a secret account because i am a politician that doesnt want the NSA to know i play poe.	Posted by DogFaceNoSpace#4931 on Oct 3, 2014, 8:19:34 AM Quote this Post
. Multi-Demi Winner Very Good Kisser Alt-Art Alpha’s Howl Winner Former Dominus Multiboxer Last edited by Manocean#0852 on Oct 4, 2014, 9:33:10 AM	Posted by Manocean#0852 on Oct 3, 2014, 8:23:22 AM Quote this Post
" Swagtrain wrote: " Pwnther wrote: Doesn't that makes you feel so much better knowing you are grown up and don't want/need training wheels to play? Sure makes me feel better anyways. You feel like a grown up because of the way you play a video game. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL You could at least try to respect the caring of pationate players regardless of how funny it might look to you. I don't see a point in defending yourself if you just throw shit at people while implying things they didn't say. Perception is reality.	Posted by widardd#5398 on Oct 3, 2014, 8:49:46 AM Quote this Post
" Swagtrain wrote: " Pwnther wrote: Doesn't that makes you feel so much better knowing you are grown up and don't want/need training wheels to play? Sure makes me feel better anyways. You feel like a grown up because of the way you play a video game. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Sorry if my analogy went over your head. Just trying to tease dem cheaters. On a side note though, reading replies like yours sure makes me feel old (in comparison).	Posted by Pwnther#7459 on Oct 3, 2014, 9:52:00 AM Quote this Post
You lost me the moment you compared 1 button logout macro (which isnt auto, there are however hack programs that auto-logout at low hp) to the others. Those are not cheats. EDIT: WAIT, after re-reading, you meant auto-potter + logout macro. That is actually not allowed by GGG standards and should be reported (multiaction macros are not allowed). You must be sure that's the case though, I use a logout macro, and ofc before I hit it I tend to gobble pots up. (GGG is welcome to check my actions in game in detail, got nothing to hide) Oblivious Last edited by Disrupted#3096 on Oct 3, 2014, 10:56:41 AM	Posted by Disrupted#3096 on Oct 3, 2014, 10:22:44 AM Quote this Post