Apex of Sacrifice: Holy Shit

Are you using Fire Pen on your incinerate? I don't have any problem with them on my incinerate build.
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Clear very easily with 2 different bow rangers, no block, and 75 resists. I actually find the Apex XP great Gem XP farming.
My Phys Crit Split Arrow Ranger Guide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/919885

My Poison Arrow Ranger Guide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/806913
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Are you using Fire Pen on your incinerate? I don't have any problem with them on my incinerate build.


don't have the slots do it. unless fire pen > added chaos (?)

actually i could slot fire pen instead of faster projectiles... but that reduction in range could really cause problems. still, it's worth trying again.

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Clear very easily with 2 different bow rangers, no block, and 75 resists. I actually find the Apex XP great Gem XP farming.


that's what i'm trying next.

the archer will die, but i'm very interested to see what the experience is like.
i'm expecting it to do quite well.
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/919885
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/806913

Builds and videos for the Bow Rangers. The Phys Crit one is telling, and I think shows how your encounter progression will work. My first kill - used every single portal. Second kill, she got me once. She's on farm status on that same guy now, and dying at all anywhere in the Apex is extremely rare. Practice and familiarity is more important than anything else.
My Phys Crit Split Arrow Ranger Guide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/919885

My Poison Arrow Ranger Guide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/806913
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Asidra wrote:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/919885
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/806913

Builds and videos for the Bow Rangers. The Phys Crit one is telling, and I think shows how your encounter progression will work. My first kill - used every single portal. Second kill, she got me once. She's on farm status on that same guy now, and dying at all anywhere in the Apex is extremely rare. Practice and familiarity is more important than anything else.


LOL.

i should have recognized your name! i'm following your build guide (wonderful guide!) :-) well, yours and precaso's. i'm using puncture instead of frenzy and that's working really well too. running away from stuff to kill it is great fun.

i took the suggestion in your guide to use chain, and haven't looked back.

BTW, keep in mind that i'm only level 82 and i think i have one gem over level 18, and about 4.5k life.

so it's suicide, but should be interesting...

how important is phase acrobatics before i make the attempt ? i know precaso doesn't use it, but with a level 100 toon he doesn't need it because he's killing stuff so fast.

thanks very much.
I'd level more. No sense losing xp when you need more anyway. Fill out your HPs and DPS some.

People running blue maps in Ambush lessened the defenses needed in builds a bit, as it really reduced the Danger in 76-78 Maps. There is no way I'd go without Phase Acro. The risk is really taking 2 hits close together, like a small FB and the Lightning - or 2 small flameblasts before you had a chance to fill HP. Can it be done without Phase Acro? Sure - the Poison arrow Build doesn't have any. But I'd rather have 46% spell dodge to minimize the chance of said risk happening. A few tips I use now:

-Haste in for Grace to run faster, the spears still miss
-CWDT gem come out because Atziri reflects curse. But the split can be cursed, I manually enfeeble the one I kill now and have 0 problems just staying still and leeching through til it dies.
-no need for LGOH on split arrow since it only gets used on adds that dont attack, I swap in Added Fire

My Phys Crit Split Arrow Ranger Guide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/919885

My Poison Arrow Ranger Guide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/806913
Last edited by Asidra on Jul 21, 2014, 5:12:03 PM
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Asidra wrote:
I'd level more. No sense losing xp when you need more anyway. Fill out your HPs and DPS some.

People running blue maps in Ambush lessened the defenses needed in builds a bit, as it really reduced the Danger in 76-78 Maps. There is no way I'd go without Phase Acro. The risk is really taking 2 hits close together, like a small FB and the Lightning - or 2 small flameblasts before you had a chance to fill HP. Can it be done without Phase Acro? Sure - the Poison arrow Build doesn't have any. But I'd rather have 46% spell dodge to minimize the chance of said risk happening. A few tips I use now:

-Haste in for Grace to run faster, the spears still miss
-CWDT gem come out because Atziri reflects curse. But the split can be cursed, I manually enfeeble the one I kill now and have 0 problems just staying still and leeching through til it dies.
-no need for LGOH on split arrow since it only gets used on adds that dont attack, I swap in Added Fire



ok. you're right. no point.

just figured out why my incinerate build had such a hard time.

forgot to slot lazhwar. that's a serious hit to my spell block.

also tells me that i want at least 5 more levels so i can get phase acrobatics.

thanks.
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mark1030 wrote:
Are you using Fire Pen on your incinerate? I don't have any problem with them on my incinerate build.


Damage dealt isn't a problem.

Damage taken is the problem. The build avoids almost no damage and has little mitigation. The enemies in AoS hit hard and fast and do so much better than anything I've seen in maps.

Then again, I don't play with "hard" map mods because I don't intend to take risks I don't need to. I use maps for items, not experience. Catacombs can do experience just fine.
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Natharias wrote:
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mark1030 wrote:
Are you using Fire Pen on your incinerate? I don't have any problem with them on my incinerate build.


Damage dealt isn't a problem.

Damage taken is the problem. The build avoids almost no damage and has little mitigation. The enemies in AoS hit hard and fast and do so much better than anything I've seen in maps.

Then again, I don't play with "hard" map mods because I don't intend to take risks I don't need to. I use maps for items, not experience. Catacombs can do experience just fine.


Some bad news there I suspect. If catacombs gives you good xp the problem is likely you're just not high enough level. Apex is probably good for characters around level 80. Lower might be possible but probably only for very tough builds.
from what i read, the difficulty of apex is comparaple to endgame maps, thats 76-79

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