thoughts on my item

I was wondering to do a frenzy burning discharger with three dragons but this ring seems to be way more powerful O_o

Oh, sorry, I thought you were asking for suggestions on how to improve it; I didn't realize that the item was already done and waiting to go live.

In any case, I can see this ring being primarily used with Discharge and with builds that use Hatred & Added Fire for lots of fire damage.

There are quite some combinations that might be interesting:

Freeze Pulse + FC + INc Crits + GMP(LMP) + LL (( + Spell Echo?)) Use three Dragons - Shock

Glacial Cascade + added fire + hatred (if it applies)

Etheral Knifes + added fire + Hatred

Glacial Hammer + added Fire + Hatred


Also: Does this double dip on inc. and more elemental damage? Like nicreasing cold damage before conversion and fire damge after conversion? If so: holy crap....
It might then be very interesting for attack based builds because of the Weapon elemental damage gem and nodes as well as WED from gear...

Makes me think of enduring cry + bloodrage manual discharge... combined with searing touch this will amplify one's ability to one shot the screen with pure fire damage. :)

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derriesen wrote:

Also: Does this double dip on inc. and more elemental damage? Like nicreasing cold damage before conversion and fire damge after conversion? If so: holy crap....

No, conversion does not work that way.

Converting cold to fire results in damage that scales with increases to cold damage and increases to fire damage, and outputs fire damage.

Elemental is the set {cold,fire,lightning}, and is only applied once (since cold/fire damage is elemental).

Ex.
If you had %increased cold damage, %increased fire damage, and %increased elemental damage, then normally the damage would be cold and would be scaled by {cold, elemental}. After conversion from cold to fire, the damage would be fire and be scaled by {cold, fire, elemental}.

Shit, those stats are final already?

That's some damn strong shit you got into the game.

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Nightmare90 wrote:

Shit, those stats are final already?

That's some damn strong shit you got into the game.

Like +/- 60 total resistance, minor burn damage thing and conversion (doesn't actually increase damage and this ring doesn't work that well for prolif builds) so it's not THAT strong really.

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Grughal wrote:

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Nightmare90 wrote:

Shit, those stats are final already?

That's some damn strong shit you got into the game.

Like +/- 60 total resistance, minor burn damage thing and conversion (doesn't actually increase damage and this ring doesn't work that well for prolif builds) so it's not THAT strong really.

The burning damage buff is as strong as the only burning keynode available in the passive skill tree. Wouldn't count that bad on top of making other cold to fire damage conversion means obsolete.

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Nightmare90 wrote:

The burning damage buff is as strong as the only burning keynode available in the passive skill tree. Wouldn't count that bad on top of making other cold to fire damage conversion means obsolete.

Fire damage double dips, so 30% burning damage (especially if you took the Holy Fire -cluster) is not that effective. Most likely you'll end up with more burn damage with something like 15% increased fire damage (which can roll on a rare ring along with other stats).

Like I said (earlier in the thread), the ring is cool because of the conversion thing eliminating Cold To Fire and AoF req for 100% conversion but it's not like "zomg stronk!".

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Grughal wrote:

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Nightmare90 wrote:

The burning damage buff is as strong as the only burning keynode available in the passive skill tree. Wouldn't count that bad on top of making other cold to fire damage conversion means obsolete.

Fire damage double dips, so 30% burning damage (especially if you took the Holy Fire -cluster) is not that effective. Most likely you'll end up with more burn damage with something like 15% increased fire damage (which can roll on a rare ring along with other stats).

Like I said (earlier in the thread), the ring is cool because of the conversion thing eliminating Cold To Fire and AoF req for 100% conversion but it's not like "zomg stronk!".

Interesting. Thanks for the elaboration. :)