First Invasion Atziri kills have occurred!

as for me.. i don't think havoc paid willy and mors.. first of all... they are risking their characters.. maybe havoc got the balls to fight Atziri ask and paid the two to help him for the risk they are taking if someone dies or now that willy died.. atleast he has the currency to get back his gears? thats my point of view.

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nikoon wrote:

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Magnicon wrote:

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Sodomee wrote:

There isn't really much that GGG can do about it. Honestly, I blame the very first people who started selling the fight. They are the ones that caused all of this. You would think that the first players who managed to kill Atziri would want the MTX to mean something, but clearly all they cared about was loading their stash with exalts.

They could just not do it. Or they could come up with a completely different competition. You can't blame the players for doing exactly what players have always done. GGG is the one that made the choice to reward those people. They could have avoided doing so.

Exactly, GGG could make this fight solo only.. That would be legit.. Instead of that, they congratulate people who are selling and buying achievement. And they do it on main page, pretending that nothing happend.. Really funny.

And then everyone in a challenge league plays a solo build. At least everyone who wants the MTX.

Sounds like fun right? Let's just all play an online game by ourselves. What are friends?

/derp

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lor21gj wrote:

you don't even have the right to QQ as you dont have the balls to fight Atziri.. i even doubt you play invasion...

I'm not aware that I had my character list hidden. Currently 81 on Invasion. According to your list, you do not have a single character on Invasion.

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lor21gj wrote:

so its mainly not the fault of the devs.. its the fault of people! dont blame GGG blame the people ruining it...

The people are doing what they have always done. GGG made the choice to reward them.

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Sodomee wrote:

And then everyone in a challenge league plays a solo build. At least everyone who wants the MTX.

Sounds like fun right? Let's just all play an online game by ourselves. What are friends?

/derp

You keep saying that as if its the only other option. They could have come up with other competitions.

Sodomee: Believe or not there are lot of people who do not care about Atziri at all.. If there is a competion with prizes, they should be well deserved not bought.. GGG failed in that.. At least they should have punished people who cheated like that. But they pretend that nothing happend. Thats my point.

what the ... fuss about?
as if paying orbs to get carried ingame were something new?!

you guys put ethics and moral on game aspects which never existed there in the first place.

Whatever going for RoS.. At least Blizzard goes the right direction with ladders, no AH, everything account bound. No buyers, no sellers.. Fair competition.. Have fun, guys.

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geradon wrote:

what the ... fuss about?
as if paying orbs to get carried ingame were something new?!

you guys put ethics and moral on game aspects which never existed there in the first place.

Paying to progress is not the problem. Paying to get in the first 50 kills is.
If you fail to understand that, there is nothing I can do for you.

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Magnicon wrote:

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lor21gj wrote:

you don't even have the right to QQ as you dont have the balls to fight Atziri.. i even doubt you play invasion...

I'm not aware that I had my character list hidden. Currently 81 on Invasion. According to your list, you do not have a single character on Invasion.

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lor21gj wrote:

so its mainly not the fault of the devs.. its the fault of people! dont blame GGG blame the people ruining it...

The people are doing what they have always done. GGG made the choice to reward them.

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Sodomee wrote:

And then everyone in a challenge league plays a solo build. At least everyone who wants the MTX.

Sounds like fun right? Let's just all play an online game by ourselves. What are friends?

/derp

You keep saying that as if its the only other option. They could have come up with other competitions.

yeah i dont have invasion char coz i have 200+ ping and i play more like 1-3 hours a day... if only i have better connection then i will have the balls to play it.. second at least i acknowledged people who really done it. i dont have respect to people who are always complaining and they do not achieve nothing...

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nikoon wrote:

Sodomee: Believe or not there are lot of people who do not care about Atziri at all.. If there is a competion with prizes, they should be well deserved not bought.. GGG failed in that.. At least they should have punished people who cheated like that. But they pretend that nothing happend. Thats my point.

I never said anything to the contrary. There are many, many people who wanted the MTX. Much more so than those who could care less. If you reread my post, you would see that I'm only speaking about the people who wanted the MTX. I specified in the second sentence of my previous post.

Yes, I agree it is wrong that Havoc and others are selling or have already sold the fight multiple times. However, GGG never stated that it was against the rules to sell or buy the Atziri kill. It was all based on whoever got the challenge completed first. So there isn't much they can do now as far as the reward is concerned. They can't punish a player for breaking a rule that never existed in the first place.

The only thing that bothers me is that the people who sold the fight are getting recognition and praise. However, a lot of people in this thread seem to agree that Havoc deserves no honor for ruining the challenge just like many on Ambush did.

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nikoon wrote:

Whatever going for RoS.. At least Blizzard goes the right direction with ladders, no AH, everything account bound. No buyers, no sellers.. Fair competition.. Have fun, guys.

D3 has no competition.

All it is, is loot explosions and catering to the casuals. Throw them 40-60$(whatever the price is) and you get showered in shiny items!

Yay! Shiny!

/sarcasm

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nikoon wrote:

That softcore scrub /Havoc/ should be banned and moved to standard where he belongs.. Totally ruining purpose of hardcore playing..

Shame on you GGG, that you are afraid to punish people who are selling and buying Atziri kills.

Hardcore is all about not dying. I got a feeling he got a lvl 100 without dying, and several 90s.