I'm Unhappy I Put As Much Money As I Did In This Game

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Fruz wrote:

There is a need for survivability obviously, but it's far from being as bad as people pretend in this thread :)

Now, that really depends on what are you playing, some of the difficulty can truly be slipped past. For instance, would you say this kind of gear can do low maps with a bit over 2K life, while underlevelled?



Sure, but it's a hairy business, and I could build a char that's much, much harder to kill and can do the same effortlessly, but why would I want to play a char like that? So, in order to make the game less difficult, I pretty much need to stop having fun. That about sums it.

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raics wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

There is a need for survivability obviously, but it's far from being as bad as people pretend in this thread :)

Now, that really depends on what are you playing, some of the difficulty can truly be slipped past. For instance, would you say this kind of gear can do low maps with a bit over 2K life, while underlevelled?

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Sure, but it's a hairy business, and I could build a char that's much, much harder to kill and can do the same effortlessly, but why would I want to play a char like that? So, in order to make the game less difficult, I pretty much need to stop having fun. That about sums it.

I was mainly talking about the skill tree.
Everyone needs basically the same kind of mods on the armour ... that is definitely true.

You mst have taken an extreme also, I don't know what your skill tree is, but I bet that you almost did not take any life nodes to have only 2k. There is a minimum value so that you need enough margin to play.
I don't think that maps are actually meant to be ran under leveled too.

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jaxxxson wrote:

No workaround trading, for a lot of people, trading isn't fun.

I'm not entirely clear on your exact point, but I'm guessing something like you feel pressured to trade, which you don't like? Well, you certainly can play and enjoy the game without trading, or with minimal trading, if you so choose. You'll need to temper your expectations accordingly, of course.

This right here I'd say is my #1 gripe with the game and GGG. You can clearly see the developers view trading requirements as a dogma. Yes, I do play self found as much as possible. Yes, I DO expect to be able to play all types of builds. Why is that unreasonable? POE is an Action Role Playing Game. It is not "Stock Market Simulator 2014."

The rest of the game, I absolutely love it, especially the skills and skill tree and the combat feel. But it just really sucks that I'm limited to the cheap builds, of which there are only a few selections.

I'm going to keep playing and enjoying as much as I can, but when I think about this stuff it's a little bit of a bad feeling.

Again, I love POE, and I will always defend it with my online voice versus d3 and other competitors on the strength of the skill tree and skills alone, but the trading stuff has always annoyed me.

nothing is perfect, eh? :)

The QQ some people manage to spew at the devs is really disgusting. You guy's should honestly be ashamed. They are by far the hardest and fastest working team whose game I've had the pleasure of playing. I think that's probably true for everyone.

Is the game perfect for every single person out there? No. Nothing is perfect for everyone. Here is the thing, if this is a game you don't like because say, you don't like rng playing a big roll in the games you play. WHY DID YOU EVEN START? You don't like trading because it's work and you can't find every GG item out there on your own? TOO BAD! Oh the massive expansion patch that went along with 60+ new bosses has some issues, and they're working their asses off to fix it. Better cry a fucking river.

Everyone at GGG. I respect you so much for being able to read through this garbage and keep a cool head, and your ability to form intelligent replies to unintelligent arguments and keep these people is certainly beyond my capabilities. All that I can say is please don't change this game into some kind of casual pos like Diablo. I know you wont ignore threads like this but try to just keep them in the back of your mind.

Thanks

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NefariousJosh wrote:

The QQ some people manage to spew at the devs is really disgusting. You guy's should honestly be ashamed. They are by far the hardest and fastest working team whose game I've had the pleasure of playing. I think that's probably true for everyone.

Is the game perfect for every single person out there? No. Nothing is perfect for everyone. Here is the thing, if this is a game you don't like because say, you don't like rng playing a big roll in the games you play. WHY DID YOU EVEN START? You don't like trading because it's work and you can't find every GG item out there on your own? TOO BAD! Oh the massive expansion patch that went along with 60+ new bosses has some issues, and they're working their asses off to fix it. Better cry a fucking river.

Everyone at GGG. I respect you so much for being able to read through this garbage and keep a cool head, and your ability to form intelligent replies to unintelligent arguments and keep these people is certainly beyond my capabilities. All that I can say is please don't change this game into some kind of casual pos like Diablo. I know you wont ignore threads like this but try to just keep them in the back of your mind.

Thanks

+1 Quoted for truth

i maybe put around 100-120 euros in this game so not a big expense, but i put hopes into it, i thought they would keep the game as hardcore as possible, the first mistake/step behind was the confusion with the loot system during the closed beta/open beta, for me that was the first sign of GGG 's weakness to take a real decision.


I think pushing people to do lottery to link their items is a huge mistake and it shows that even if you have stacked a ton of fusing (hours and hours of game) the game can say "fuck you" so you will never link your self found armor, you have more probabilities to win 5000 dollars going all in everytime at a poker table, that's not a positive message to players.


To be straight to the point, why you don't reward the commitment of players in the game like d2 did and why you don't put good rewards : items or currencies ,we don't care about being the first to kill aziri which seems to be your first preoccupation( cf: patch note preview)

You could attract people to be in dangerous situations/taking more risks because of their greed like with the boxes but you put those only in the ambush league and not in the invasion league maybe you thought it would be too fun ...

The invasion league gives the illusion of a beautiful cake but when you eat a bit it revealed to be tasteless so you don't finish it, you move on and you never go back to the bakery except if some substantial changes occurred.

I realize it was stated that 4 links should be more common now, in the OP, but does this apply to drop or crafting?

I've been a long time player, basically since just after the beta, and the crafting in this is almost useless now. I realize it's just RNG, but to take over 60 fusings and not one 4 link on a chest is ridiculous. I've spent every bit of currency to get more fusings to 4l a Ilvl 55 chest. I don't even have 4l gloves/boots.


This is broken.

I have to agree with all you said (its geting tiresome to get oneshoted and lots of people are quiting :/)

I've played since closed beta and it might be the first time i consider not playing anymore.
I miss the old hardcore league, 4 months were fine ( i played onlsaught top 100 and nemesis top 10 ) but I feel bad farming for nothing since HC is pretty much dead because of the 4 months HC league.

Please re-balance invasion league bosses GGG
Please give us something to do in HC permanent league
Please stop nerfing quantity we can't drop anything when playing alone :/
Please re-balance skills so we can use any gems again , not fucking searing bond flameblast and whatnot ( i miss so much lightning arrow builds , dual spork , freezing pulse and so on )
Please improve map drops

All i have to say.

I just wanted to show my thoughts to balance out the conversation. I have the utmost respect for GGG in everything they do. I've never seen a game so well crafted, with so few people, so quickly. Any other popular online game takes anywhere from 10-20 times longer than GGG to release new content, all while charging monthly or asking for a box purchase. Additionally, most other popular online games cave in to the player demands and create slot-machine styled game addictions in place of real, fun game content.

I'm happy about every single cent I've given to GGG and hope that they can feel happy knowing there are some people who appreciate what they're doing and don't buy supporter packs to justify expectations.

I'm not a hardcore player, I play softcore because I simply don't have the time to devote to restarting a character over and over. For example, in the last 4 month league I got two characters to 75 and 78, with a total wealth probably somewhere at 5ex. In hardcore, I'd have gotten maybe a single character into the 70s, but probably not even that. So to those that can do it, awesome! You should be proud because it is definitely more difficult ESPECIALLY Invasion league.

Just judging by the new bosses I've come across in the corrupted zones I can honestly say I wouldn't even dream of playing hardcore in this particular league. They need to be toned down to be a little less op. Beyond that, make them drop loot from the same tables as Piety and her ilk. Perhaps nerf the unique drop rate slightly so that its not TOO easy and everyone gets a shavronnes by level 70, but make the killing of these uber every-level bosses worth the risk. Seems to me that the risk/reward is way out of balance. Getting that balance right would make it much more intriguing and enjoyable.

Heck, better yet, leave the op bosses op and give them the Wealth mod on top of the act boss level drops so that the challenge is something people WANT to be able to overcome. I just bailed on the dock corrupt zone with the spectral snake boss with a party of 6 because there was no way we were going to stand a chance and we were at least 4-10 levels over the level of the area (avg player was lvl 56 in a lvl 50 zone). But if the rewards were significant enough we would be jumping on our mains and bringing that sucker down for the LEWTS because that's what the game is all about.

I love this game, I LOVE the speed we receive new content, and I love the overall direction the game is moving (chaos and randomness and epic battles around every corner). I trust that the balance will be restored, even if the Vaal are fighting you every step of the way.

P.S. Just a suggestion, allow all Vaal skills to have a higher max amount of charges (like vaal spec throw has 6) that carry over from place to place. Some places you get to use the skills a lot like monkey forests, other places you never get to use it like cave bear caves. At least make it on a timer where one soul escapes per 5 or 10 seconds so that if we are continuously killing mobs we can use the Vaal skills more often. Currently they are a 1-3 uses per level sort of thing, and they really aren't op enough to be used so little. I stopped using mine at level 50 and now they are just leveling in my second secondary slots when I don't have better gems to level. Kinda non-epic for something that had me so stoked when they were first revealed...

Overall excellent job on the mini-expansion! Thank you GGG!