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Fruz wrote:
@tikitaki : so if I can do something that you can't do, it basically means that no one else can do it ?
interesting ...
My witch is fine thank you, you can see her in my char lists.
You trying to taunt on HC over SC is ridiculous ( but definitely expectable ) or maybe you didn't read my previous post, idk ...
What a strawman. Tikitaki did not promote HC over SC. He merely said that your statement that "anyone can make a character that survives with only a few life/ES nodes" comes from a very flawed place considering your character has probably died more than once. In other words, "not survived." So if you want to link your character that's in HC with only "X nodes" or screencap your high level character with 0 /deaths to prove your point, then be everyone's guest.
Otherwise, it's kind of specious of you to suggest that everyone who has trouble surviving without taking a shitload of survivability nodes is bad at this game.
Welcome to fruz, when in trouble in an argument derail the conversation.
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Posted byallbusiness#6050on Mar 12, 2014, 1:56:00 PM
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UnderOmerta wrote:
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Fruz wrote:
@tikitaki : so if I can do something that you can't do, it basically means that no one else can do it ?
interesting ...
My witch is fine thank you, you can see her in my char lists.
You trying to taunt on HC over SC is ridiculous ( but definitely expectable ) or maybe you didn't read my previous post, idk ...
What a strawman. Tikitaki did not promote HC over SC. He merely said that your statement that "anyone can make a character that survives with only a few life/ES nodes" comes from a very flawed place considering your character has probably died more than once. In other words, "not survived." So if you want to link your character that's in HC with only "X nodes" or screencap your high level character with 0 /deaths to prove your point, then be everyone's guest.
Otherwise, it's kind of specious of you to suggest that everyone who has trouble surviving without taking a shitload of survivability nodes is bad at this game.
Looks like people can't read :/.
let me quote myself again :
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The skill tree has not been designed around hardcore leagues, HC leagues are different from SC where most people play, because obviously one needs more margin to survive in those.
You are exactly doing the same as he is, it's just no different and perfectly fits what I just said earlier tbh.
@allbusiness : do you really think that I've been in "trouble" in an argument with you about a video game on a forum ?
Stop fantasying lol.
You don't really make argument either usually, that's why I usually try avoiding talking to you.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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Posted byFruz#6137on Mar 12, 2014, 2:02:14 PM
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Fruz wrote:
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UnderOmerta wrote:
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Fruz wrote:
@tikitaki : so if I can do something that you can't do, it basically means that no one else can do it ?
interesting ...
My witch is fine thank you, you can see her in my char lists.
You trying to taunt on HC over SC is ridiculous ( but definitely expectable ) or maybe you didn't read my previous post, idk ...
What a strawman. Tikitaki did not promote HC over SC. He merely said that your statement that "anyone can make a character that survives with only a few life/ES nodes" comes from a very flawed place considering your character has probably died more than once. In other words, "not survived." So if you want to link your character that's in HC with only "X nodes" or screencap your high level character with 0 /deaths to prove your point, then be everyone's guest.
Otherwise, it's kind of specious of you to suggest that everyone who has trouble surviving without taking a shitload of survivability nodes is bad at this game.
Looks like people can't read :/.
let me quote myself again :
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Fruz wrote:
The skill tree has not been designed around hardcore leagues, HC leagues are different from SC where most people play, because obviously one needs more margin to survive in those.
You are exactly doing the same as he is, it's just no different and perfectly fits what I just said earlier tbh.
@allbusiness : do you really think that I've been in "trouble" in an argument with you about a video game on a forum ?
Stop fantasying lol.
You don't really make argument either usually, that's why I usually try avoiding talking to you.
Okay... so you aren't talking about HC.
So what the fuck are you doing interjecting to a complaint about how it's "hard to survive" (aka hard to never die)? If you aren't playing to never die then how do you know about how hard it is? Jesus Christ, this is not advanced reading comprehension. This is having basic reading, deductive, and interpretative skills and not being a miserable little shit about it.
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Posted byUnderOmerta#1203on Mar 12, 2014, 2:04:19 PM
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Cannot argue without getting pissed / insulting ? heh !
Hard to survive doesn't only apply to HC.
Besides the original point was : you can do plentiful of things with this skill tree that will work out well ( = where you can actually survive ), claiming the opposite is just wrong.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Mar 12, 2014, 2:07:22 PM
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Posted byFruz#6137on Mar 12, 2014, 2:06:09 PM
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Fruz wrote:
Cannot argue without getting pissed / insulting ? heh !
Hard to survive doesn't only apply to HC.
I'm not attempting to "argue" with you because you never attempted to argue in the first place. I merely pointed out the absurdity of you interjecting yourself into a conversation that you know nothing about it and have no room to actually talk.
Carry on trolling if you wish. Good day.
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Posted byUnderOmerta#1203on Mar 12, 2014, 2:07:36 PM
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Fruz wrote:
Cannot argue without getting pissed / insulting ? heh !
Hard to survive doesn't only apply to HC.
I'm not attempting to "argue" with you because you never attempted to argue in the first place. I merely pointed out the absurdity of you interjecting yourself into a conversation that you know nothing about it and have no room to actually talk.
Carry on trolling if you wish. Good day.
You probably missed the original point ( which I kinda re-stated right above ).
Oh well.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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Posted byFruz#6137on Mar 12, 2014, 2:08:41 PM
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hey guys surviving with 4 ES nodes is no problem check out my skill tree in standard:
/deaths is only at 408 atm. I think it's working fine. Last edited by tikitaki#3010 on Mar 12, 2014, 2:12:18 PM
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Posted bytikitaki#3010on Mar 12, 2014, 2:10:12 PM
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UnderOmerta wrote:
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Fruz wrote:
Cannot argue without getting pissed / insulting ? heh !
Hard to survive doesn't only apply to HC.
I'm not attempting to "argue" with you because you never attempted to argue in the first place. I merely pointed out the absurdity of you interjecting yourself into a conversation that you know nothing about it and have no room to actually talk.
Carry on trolling if you wish. Good day.
You probably missed the original point ( which I kinda re-stated right above ).
Oh well.
For a lot of players in this game, if you die even once, you did not survive.
If you play SC and still "only die occasionally", you also did not survive and would probably not play this character well into maps or try to chase the ladder because you will get frustrated. By definition, survive = not/never die.
So I fail to see your point. That you can make derpy builds that are low in survivability in a softcore league? Well duh. Thanks for the insight, bro.
Last edited by UnderOmerta#1203 on Mar 12, 2014, 2:12:38 PM
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Posted byUnderOmerta#1203on Mar 12, 2014, 2:12:15 PM
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Right, I get to 80+ levels by only grinding outside of maps, /rofl.
Standard allows mistakes, HC doesn't, that's all.
You can make a mistake once in a while ( or actually test limits with much more flexibility ) and still survive well.
Thanks for continuing proving my old point tikitaki.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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Posted byFruz#6137on Mar 12, 2014, 2:14:52 PM
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Right, I get to 80+ levels by only grinding outside of maps, /rofl.
Standard allows mistakes, HC doesn't, that's all.
You can make a mistake once in a while ( or actually test limits with much more flexibility ) and still survive well.
Thanks for continuing proving my old point tikitaki.
You can get to 80+ easily. People can get to 80+ playing a few hours a day for a week starting from absolute scratch in a new league. I don't see how this is an accomplishment.
If you're actually serious about "surviving" and advancing far beyond a casual level, you know that "path of life/es nodes" is absolutely true. Do link me a high level build that doesn't follow predictable pathing. I'll wait.
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Posted byUnderOmerta#1203on Mar 12, 2014, 2:16:46 PM
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