Really?? This is a problem....

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jdilly23 wrote:

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IceM wrote:

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jdilly23 wrote:

And what is your proposed solution?

Personally im fine with the games economy

Because its EXACTLY d3 all over again, why cant you people see this? Grinding is a waste of time because it is not rewarding due to drop rates being low for the fucking ECONOMY. So people sit in trade or the forums and get wealth and just like real life the wealthy dictate the prices in game, poor fucks that that dont trade all day cant afford upgrades. So people go to RMT just so they can progress end game to try and actually try and find something. Its a joke.


Lets all hate on d3 and the AH but ignore that the exact same issue is here.

WONDERFUL solution youve got here, id say its right up there with your reading comprehension :)

I think more rings and necks would be a great idea, if they dropped proportionally to other base types it would allow for more reliable currency farming.

Including recipes for all currency would give the economy absolutes, which would be awful.

If currency drop rates are increased I will simple charge 50 ex for something instead of 25, nothing is solved :)

Making the absolute best uniques drop more (which, theoretically, would balance out the economy) would make it far to easy for people to obtain them and everyone would have the exact same gear and builds

The whole point is its a ARPG not a trade simulator. what GGG is doing is exactly what d3 did and failed, hence why they are making it so we can find our own upgrades in ROS and are removing the AH. Your petty insults dont bother me it is expect here. I dont have a problem with my reading comprehension.


The Idea is a game built around being forced to trade is shit, and will always be shit.

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IceM wrote:

The whole point is its a ARPG not a trade simulator. what GGG is doing is exactly what d3 did and failed, hence why they are making it so we can find our own upgrades in ROS and are removing the AH. Your petty insults dont bother me it is expect here. I dont have a problem with my reading comprehension.


The Idea is a game built around being forced to trade is shit, and will always be shit.

If you don't want to trade for item's like in D3 RoS... Then why don't you don't trade and find your own items? It is very possible and lots of people have already done it and continue to do so to this day. No you probably won't find every unique in the game because they are rare but that is the choice you make when you want to find your own items.

Trading is a choice. GGG doesn't have a gun to your head telling you that you must trade to play the game.

No, you're complaining about how it's so difficult to make it to end-game without trading (it isn't). Then you mentioned how you'd sit in some trade house all day instead of playing the game. You were more willing to do something not fun, instead of playing the game (also apparently not fun) so it begs the question why you are/were wasting your time.

Yes, drop rates for usable "good" gear is horrendous. The thread summed up in one sentence.

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If currency drops were increased enough, more people would just craft their own gear, completely circumventing the middle man who snaps up every fair priced item and resells it for 3-4 times the profit.

Then instead of spending 3600 fuses on a 6s and be disappointed, you can spend 18,000 fuses on a 6s and be disappointed. The game needs a true crafting system like in 'The Chosen', where you can take absolutely any loot you find and use it to upgrade your gear.

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IceM wrote:

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jdilly23 wrote:

And what is your proposed solution?

Personally im fine with the games economy

Because its EXACTLY d3 all over again, why cant you people see this? Grinding is a waste of time because it is not rewarding due to drop rates being low for the fucking ECONOMY. So people sit in trade or the forums and get wealth and just like real life the wealthy dictate the prices in game, poor fucks that that dont trade all day cant afford upgrades. So people go to RMT just so they can progress end game to try and actually try and find something. Its a joke.


Lets all hate on d3 and the AH but ignore that the exact same issue is here.

Im glad im not the only one that face palmed when everyone decided to scapegoat D3s let down factor on the fricking AH/RMAH.

You don't NEED to use the AH if you want to do barters anyway, and the RMAH was optional.

Lets all pretend this barter economy is great, and lets pretend no one will use RMAH only via china farmers who spam the game.

Id much rather the people who RMT, and MANY do, use a safe in game method where the developers get the cut rather than some bot farmer who is doing god knows what with your CC info.


The perception was that well, im not finding top game loot after a week therefore the game was built so I have to use the RMAH and then goes into an internet tantrum. What they really did, and what they are doing here, is attempting to make rare loot rare.

The problem is, this game has hardcore gear checks, and no viable way to remedy the issue since crafting mats are now gold to trade with. At least in D3 you could get to level cap and not worry about leveling past anything good you found.

The AH in a game like this is a must have, this isn't 1998 where most people stay offline due to dial ups, and don't care about being leet, and are most likely teenages. In this day and age you need an AH or you have exactly the economy this game has...people who flip stuff all day then get good gear to sell on their RMT site. Maybe they put a script on their site that reads your autologin for the game and take it all back later to maximize profits.

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iamstryker wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

I grind, have 10 ex in stash. Have used over 10 in equivalent currency on maps. And the maps I've ran would be worth probably close to 100 by now.

There's really nothing that surprising about it.

Is that you traded for part of those exalted orbs not relevant in this thread also?

Correct. Since the discussion is about you must trade and not grind to get wealth. I just hit lvl 90. So obviously you can grind and see that kind of wealth

You didn't grind (find) those exalts, you traded for them, so I don't think that helps your case.

I'm pretty sure you ALL missed the point of the OP.

The "problem" is that a 6 SOCKET UNIQUE has a CURRENT OFFER - NOT BUYOUT - OF 50 EXALTS.

It means one of two things.

1.) Either this Item is ridiculously over powered and should have received the SAME TREATMENT as Kaoms and Shavronnes.

2.) Gating the CHANCE TO DROP a unique such as this behind 76plus maps is complete horseshit and terrible for the game.

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reboticon wrote:

I'm pretty sure you ALL missed the point of the OP.

The "problem" is that a 6 SOCKET UNIQUE has a CURRENT OFFER - NOT BUYOUT - OF 50 EXALTS.

It means one of two things.

1.) Either this Item is ridiculously over powered and should have received the SAME TREATMENT as Kaoms and Shavronnes.

2.) Gating the CHANCE TO DROP a unique such as this behind 76plus maps is complete horseshit and terrible for the game.

Eh. You don't need a voltaxic, and maps are expensive anyway.

Mansions are expensive. Nerf mansions.

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Oh comon...what was wrong with that statement? To obvious?

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reboticon wrote:

I'm pretty sure you ALL missed the point of the OP.

The "problem" is that a 6 SOCKET UNIQUE has a CURRENT OFFER - NOT BUYOUT - OF 50 EXALTS.

It means one of two things.

1.) Either this Item is ridiculously over powered and should have received the SAME TREATMENT as Kaoms and Shavronnes.

2.) Gating the CHANCE TO DROP a unique such as this behind 76plus maps is complete horseshit and terrible for the game.

Why shouldnt things be expensive? Should they nerf crafting since items can be worth several hundred ex?

Gating TOP TIER content to top tier players is complete horseshit? Im very sorry that you arent able to farm docks and have absolutely amazing gear, very sad story

Stryker, I've found 6 out of the 10.

And to everyone else, can't you chance those? At any lvl? Or did I read the patch notes wrong?