Fusing Horror Stories

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Vulpix0r wrote:
Do you guys bother with increasing quality of the armour before fusing? Does it actually matter?


The odds are so low it's almost impossible to tell.

If you take it at face value, sure, it works.

However, if the odds to 6L and item are say, 0.00001%, raising it by 0.0002% aren't going to be noticeable.

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BackwoodsS wrote:
Horror stories of solo self found:

I save up a few hundred jewelers and 6s item. Then farm and save up a few hundred fusings and 5L. Do it all the time. What a pain.


This is kinda where I'm at.

I had a really high end item drop, so of course, like an idiot, I'm going to try to fuse it.



So far, about 200 fusings in.

Now for the horror;

On a marathon day, I mean MARATHON, I was able to get 200 alterations from runs.

I did some math. Oh God, why did I have to figure it out...

200 alts broken down to jewelers is 100. Jews down to fuse is 25.

Twenty-five.
Twenty-five.
Twenty-five.

I said marathon right? We're talking in excess of 10 hour session. Not an every-day thing, once a blue moon, so 200 is pretty unrealistic. Perhaps, 50ish is a 'real' number.

so four days for 200 alts, to 100 jew, to 25 fuse. Takes what roughly 1000 fuse for a guess to have a hope?

160 days. I am going to need a half a year to get the 1000 fuse to try and do this item.

This folks, this right here is the horror, because there is still a 50/50% chance that I won't 6L, for a HALF A YEARS worth time.

Even typing this all out makes me think... should I bother?

One Hundred, Sixty goddamn days.

To even have a chance.

The horror. The horror.
Last edited by gr00grams#5298 on Feb 3, 2014, 4:32:26 AM
Imo we have to wait till they really fix it, we have to wait for lots of ppl to leave this game and then the gamegods perhaps will fix it. So you can craft your own items or give an option to 6l and make it bind on your account. Ill wait for it.
i chickenout sometimes, i use altF4 sometimes, i play Templar, i TrollU, i love this game.
If you are leaving because you did not roll 6L then you do not understand that 6L IS MEANT to be really rare.

If your build requires 6L to work then you are doing it wrong. If your staying or leaving depends on it, you are doing it wrong.

Good luck to everybody with your fusings though
That awkward feeling when people say they've spent hundreds to thousands of fusings on one item, and you've only ever seen maybe 1-200 fusings yourself... (been playing for over a year, both hardcore and softcore... have 1 5L in each league. that's it.)
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Vulpix0r wrote:
Do you guys bother with increasing quality of the armour before fusing? Does it actually matter?


I did this trying to 5-link a white chest on the last day of the 1 week Nemesis race. I only went through maybe a stack or two of armourer scraps but ultimately only managed to 5-link it with something like two fusings after running out of scraps to use on it.

From my (admittedly limited) experience it really does seem to have no noticeable effects, which only further cements my opinion that it is a really bad mechanic that should have never been implemented. Save your whetstones and scraps for polishing your gear like they were originally meant for.
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aldorus wrote:
If you are leaving because you did not roll 6L then you do not understand that 6L IS MEANT to be really rare.


It's not "really rare." It's really randomly rare. There is a huge difference between those two things.


Less than fifty fuses. I was trying to 5L it and got a 6L. I was level 65 or so on my first character in the league. Was I thrilled? No. I was struck by survivor's guilt. There was no joy, just sheer guilt-ridden awe that I was, for once, not on the receiving end of RNG-rape.


Used about 150 fusings to get 5L...OH, THE HORROR! Rolled my first 6L at the start of Domination on an itemlevel 69, white es chest with about 200 fusings... Oh, this is a thread based on misfortune...whoops.
Still in the alpha stage, but at least build diversity isn't an issue: https://wolcengame.com/home/
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gr00grams wrote:
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Vulpix0r wrote:
Do you guys bother with increasing quality of the armour before fusing? Does it actually matter?


The odds are so low it's almost impossible to tell.

If you take it at face value, sure, it works.

However, if the odds to 6L and item are say, 0.00001%, raising it by 0.0002% aren't going to be noticeable.

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BackwoodsS wrote:
Horror stories of solo self found:

I save up a few hundred jewelers and 6s item. Then farm and save up a few hundred fusings and 5L. Do it all the time. What a pain.


This is kinda where I'm at.

I had a really high end item drop, so of course, like an idiot, I'm going to try to fuse it.



So far, about 200 fusings in.

Now for the horror;

On a marathon day, I mean MARATHON, I was able to get 200 alterations from runs.

I did some math. Oh God, why did I have to figure it out...

200 alts broken down to jewelers is 100. Jews down to fuse is 25.

Twenty-five.
Twenty-five.
Twenty-five.

I said marathon right? We're talking in excess of 10 hour session. Not an every-day thing, once a blue moon, so 200 is pretty unrealistic. Perhaps, 50ish is a 'real' number.

so four days for 200 alts, to 100 jew, to 25 fuse. Takes what roughly 1000 fuse for a guess to have a hope?

160 days. I am going to need a half a year to get the 1000 fuse to try and do this item.

This folks, this right here is the horror, because there is still a 50/50% chance that I won't 6L, for a HALF A YEARS worth time.

Even typing this all out makes me think... should I bother?

One Hundred, Sixty goddamn days.

To even have a chance.

The horror. The horror.


If it takes you 10hours to accumulate 200alteration orbs then you´re doing something incredibly wrong or you´re not there yet to grind dominus solo in a few seconds / minute then rinse repeat vendor au revoir nice to see you again.

You can make 30-40 alterations in 2-3 dominus runs
around 10 runs should net you 200alteration orbs with 300+IIR and 80+IIQ
He will spit out 17-25rares with the occasional unique now and then sometimes even doubbleunique and randomunique maps.

You can make around 40fuses in 2-3hours depending on your clearspeed IIR and IIQ
But if you are farming trashmobs and never do efficient bossruns then you´re going to stay poor.
i know someone who 5L'ed two pieces of gear in less than 20 fusings each.

Did it outh of sheer ignorance, not knowing how heavily the odds were stacked against him.

After he told me about that, I then spent 18 fusings getting a 4L on a chest.

I've spent at least 700+ on a Carcass Jack since November attempting to 6L it. I've go count of 4 5Links in that count.

It's pretty depressing to be honest. You farm all day, maybe get some experience and in the end there's nothing there to show for progress, especially if you die even once or twice. The real annoying part is I don't even want to play my Reaver until I can 6L the chest. Sure I could lose out on some DPS and roll with 5L in the meantime but that's boring. At this rate I'll be level 100 with im before that happens and why would i even want to bother using him at that point? This sort of system tends to dump you with the feeling of working just to try and play the game and the rampant RNG effects more than just crafting in that way.

That said, I do have a strong suspicion (entirely unspported of course) that your chance to 6L an item lowers with each fusing. I say that due to how many seem to achieve it within the first 20 or so with the odds seemingly increasing the more it goes on.

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