Feedback and Suggestions (Path of Exile 1) - Why are base stats part of the passive tree - Forum

" thenewapollo wrote: " Startkabels wrote: That's a CI Marauder (-(-_-)-) I was talking about life and armour based actually no, you wrote this " Startkabels wrote: Do you really think it would reduce variety? Take a cookie cutter Marauder for example (my favorite example). Take a look at the popular builds in the Marauder forum section. Almost every single one of them is taking the same route, Marauder starting area, Templar starting area and Duelist starting area. Their base stats are all similar, it is very simple: They take as much life as possible on their way to those areas and towards RT en IR. Yes that's right I was talking about cookie cutter Marauders, not a CI Marauder :)	Posted by Startkabels#3733 on Sep 11, 2013, 10:10:48 AM Quote this Post
" Snorkle_uk wrote: " thenewapollo wrote: " Startkabels wrote: That's a CI Marauder (-(-_-)-) I was talking about life and armour based actually no, you wrote this " Startkabels wrote: Do you really think it would reduce variety? Take a cookie cutter Marauder for example (my favorite example). Take a look at the popular builds in the Marauder forum section. Almost every single one of them is taking the same route, Marauder starting area, Templar starting area and Duelist starting area. Their base stats are all similar, it is very simple: They take as much life as possible on their way to those areas and towards RT en IR. so can you now respond to my questions? I think what he is trying to say is that all marauder life/armour/melee builds who use RT and IR spec life/armour/melee/RT/IR nodes and hence are very similar, so if you did away with the tree and had a D2/Skyrim style point allocation system they would be able to spec life/armour/melee/RT/IR nodes in the same cookie cutter fashion in a different interface that would take another year to develop and balance. Yes I know it doesnt make sense, but when you consider in other topics the op has tried to argue the builds, loot, trading etc in D3 are superior to PoE you begin to build up a picture of someone who more likely than not is just posting things he knows will stir up trouble and cause arguments for the sake of harming the forum community. Startkabels thinks everyone specs life, armour, ir and rt, casval776 thinks everyone specs ci and crit. They are both wrong, obviously, seeing as they contradict each other, and seem to be arguing these points either out of a lack of understanding of the game or just out of spite in order to intentionally be negative and foster bitterness for its own sake. I dont know if that oversteps a line where my post will be deleted by a mod again for saying what is plainly obvious but its true. Wooowww that's a bunch of crap. Don't try and slander me here, please quote exactly what I said because what I think and what I said is that loot is superior in PoE at the moment but when the new expansion with loot 2.0 comes out I expect loot to become superior in D3 over PoE. That's one and I have no idea where you read that I think builds and trading is superior in D3 over PoE so please quote me if you make such statements. Also, do you really think that I make these post to harm the community? That is just sick man! I make these post because these are my concerns, why do you think I spend so much time on this community? To harm it? Like wut????	Posted by Startkabels#3733 on Sep 11, 2013, 10:17:33 AM Quote this Post
Let me tell everyone what this is about. 1) OP sucks at making skill trees 2) OP wants a change Now, seriously, there are many retarded and out of place nodes that need to be replaced or removed, but the idea that you have to travel around the tree is great, it's just not executed too well. Old april 2012 account got stolen Last edited by Freeslana#1251 on Sep 11, 2013, 10:40:53 AM	Posted by Freeslana#1251 on Sep 11, 2013, 10:39:39 AM Quote this Post
" Startkabels wrote: Also, do you really think that I make these post to harm the community? yes, I think you do it out of spite and a love of confrontation for its own sake. You have become and anti-fan boy grasping for anything that you can shape into a criticism. " Startkabels wrote: Like wut???? like the endless "D3 is going to be better than PoE" threads where, against all logic, you argue that D3 is going to be better game based on systems that are not even in D3 yet and hence you have not even tried out. My opinion that your posts are more fuelled by spite than logic is giving you the benefit of the doubt, the alternative is that you really believe everything you have posted on these issues, that you really believe Skyrim has a better build system, that PoE is 'overwhelming' etc, and I credit you with more sense than that. Yes maybe wrongly, what can I say Im an optimist at heart. On that note I am going to withdraw from all responses to you from now on, I feel like you are more of a troll than someone with valid observations and replying to you is just feeding your hunger for endless negativity. I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :)	Posted by Snorkle_uk#0761 on Sep 11, 2013, 11:29:30 AM Quote this Post
Good, later!	Posted by Startkabels#3733 on Sep 11, 2013, 1:24:37 PM Quote this Post
wow, even when quoting you, you can´t acknowledge your own words. nor can you answer a formal question. i retract from this thread, following my own advice never to argue with a fool, as you might then ask who the real fool is.	Posted by thenewapollo#6906 on Sep 11, 2013, 1:56:05 PM Quote this Post
" IceM wrote: I still play sometimes, but that is none of your damn business. I have a right to post my opinion here just like everyone else. I just call it like I see it, I have never been a blind fanboy of anything. Not according to your quit posts and constant hate on the game. I have no idea why someone would play a game that they constantly hate on anyway. It was feedback the first time you did it and now its just constant trolling. Standard Forever Last edited by iamstryker#5952 on Sep 11, 2013, 6:24:57 PM	Posted by iamstryker#5952 on Sep 11, 2013, 4:19:50 PM Quote this Post
" Qarl wrote: Early on in the passive redesign (0.9.3 I think) we discovered players really disliked taking nodes they considered useless for their build. So why did you remove stat starting points from every class? IGN: KoTao	Posted by KoTao#4717 on Sep 11, 2013, 5:13:10 PM Quote this Post
What are those?	Posted by Startkabels#3733 on Sep 11, 2013, 5:19:50 PM Quote this Post
" Startkabels wrote: What are those? Stat nodes right next to the start. If you want to be a spell-casting duelist for example, which node should you take - melee dmg, or aspd? What about a blood-magic/EA Witch? Face it, all of your suggestions are worse than this idea: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/657756	Posted by dudiobugtron#4663 on Sep 11, 2013, 5:23:11 PM Quote this Post