Why are base stats part of the passive tree

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Startkabels wrote:

That's a CI Marauder (-(-_-)-)

I was talking about life and armour based actually

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Startkabels wrote:

Do you really think it would reduce variety? Take a cookie cutter Marauder for example (my favorite example). Take a look at the popular builds in the Marauder forum section.

Almost every single one of them is taking the same route, Marauder starting area, Templar starting area and Duelist starting area. Their base stats are all similar, it is very simple: They take as much life as possible on their way to those areas and towards RT en IR.

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iamstryker wrote:

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IceM wrote:

TC, as you can see there is no longer any point in making any beta feedback threads PERIOD. Most frustrated people quit, some still post from time to time but really all that is left is these GGG fanboys that criticize anyone or any thing said about there beloved game.

Play the game and look for a group, it has all but dried up, there are still end game groups but while leveling forget it. This game is dying and I blame the stubborn developers and horrible community that has pushed all the other players away. Good job.

keep trolling Ice, you accomplish so much by doing it. If you like other games more then go play them, no need to act so butt hurt about this game.

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Startkabels wrote:

That's a CI Marauder (-(-_-)-)

I was talking about life and armour based actually

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Why do you assume that if you only have notable keystones, players would be forced to pick one in order to get another. You are not thinking out of the box. Did I say we need a passive design like the way it is now? No, even better I suggest using a completely different layout!

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IceM wrote:

Im not trolling, Im just telling it like it is. Something wrong with that?

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dudiobugtron wrote:

^You appear to be are angry at the game, because you think it requires no intelligence to play, and the reason you aren't succeeding at it is because of bad luck, or not enough time to play. (This is just how it appears from your post, I have no knowledge of whether that is actually how you feel though.)

If the above is true, then have you considered the possiblity that the game actually does require skill to plan out builds well, and that the reason your builds aren't successful is because you haven't put any skill or intelligence in to designing them?

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iamstryker wrote:

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IceM wrote:

Im not trolling, Im just telling it like it is. Something wrong with that?

Your trolling a forum of a game you have no intention of ever playing.

Move on with your life.

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dudiobugtron wrote:

^You appear to be are angry at the game, because you think it requires no intelligence to play, and the reason you aren't succeeding at it is because of bad luck, or not enough time to play. (This is just how it appears from your post, I have no knowledge of whether that is actually how you feel though.)

If the above is true, then have you considered the possiblity that the game actually does require skill to plan out builds well, and that the reason your builds aren't successful is because you haven't put any skill or intelligence in to designing them?

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

ya and its an awful suggestion that everyone but you can see is so fail that you have absolutely zero credibility not only in this thread but in everything moving forward, your ideas are so bad and so completely miss the mark that I don't think I can take anything you ever say seriously again. Either you are trolling or you are someone whos ideas should never leave your head.

That seems a rather OTT response. The OP's suggestion is not great, but it is understandable and could work in a game.

One way to make it so you still need to get stat nodes is to have notables require different stat levels to unlock. You could also balance it so you get stats points to spend each level, and skill points to spend only every second level or something.

This would be bad (not as much variation in builds, not as much ability to customise your build exactly as you like), and I agree the OP misunderstands what PoE is about, and why the skill tree is cool and much better than in other games. But the suggestion is certainly workable and didn't warrant such a dismissive response.

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thenewapollo wrote:

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Startkabels wrote:

That's a CI Marauder (-(-_-)-)

I was talking about life and armour based actually

no, you wrote this

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Startkabels wrote:

Do you really think it would reduce variety? Take a cookie cutter Marauder for example (my favorite example). Take a look at the popular builds in the Marauder forum section.

Almost every single one of them is taking the same route, Marauder starting area, Templar starting area and Duelist starting area. Their base stats are all similar, it is very simple: They take as much life as possible on their way to those areas and towards RT en IR.

so can you now respond to my questions?

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scorpitron wrote:

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Startkabels wrote:

Is it not more logical that you would just raise your strength and life every level (or maybe put 1 point in dexterity or intelligence when needed) and also be able to choose a significant passive as well instead of a small connecting node?

I think it could make the passive tree a lot more powerful and player stats more scalable actually..

no, auto allocation of ANYTHING...passives, stats, skills, etc, is restricting my ability to choose when and how to allocate those myself.