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Vooodu wrote:
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gonzaw wrote:
I mean, it'd be like a bunch of mercenaries picking up everything they see, and then group together, see all the treasures they've got, and share it between them as they please.
This would make each party "closer" (you'd need to actually talk to people to determine who gets what :P ), and it basically solves the "ninja" problem.
But, there really isn't a ninja problem. Its all mental. Fighting monsters and ransacking random drops off the ground is the whole point of the loot system.
The moment anyone even thinks about using the term ninja.. They should take two steps back from their pc and smack themselves silly for five minutes.
Thats the best way to solve someones ninja problem...XD
Or leave from a game that player is not rewarded for his effort
This will solve a lot of problems for the player and will bring more to ggg
When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself
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Posted bykillbilly#2346on Mar 5, 2013, 11:45:18 AM
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Try not to think of loot for a second. LOOT is the least important thing here.
Huh? Loot is the single most important thing in an aRPG. Improving your character is the number one goal, and that's done via gear.
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Posted byMrH#0517on Mar 5, 2013, 11:47:12 AM
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killbilly wrote:
Or leave from a game that player is not rewarded for his effort
This will solve a lot of problems for the player and will bring more to ggg
But you are rewarded with exp. Thats the true reward in public games.
Besides, you can't ninja in this game. Thats my point of the post above.
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Posted byVooodu#7002on Mar 5, 2013, 11:51:07 AM
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I suffer from laggs daily, and this does not please me at all. It saddens me, that you decide to come up with a system that fits melee's and non-laggers, I KNOW that you wrote that the time has been modified to fit ranged and laggers better, but this is far from enough. I don't know what you believe lagg is, but for me these timers are just a joke. why have timers at all when you want a system where you SHOULD (!?) try to fuck someone's loot up as much as you can. this creates a system where "Best computers win" which is like in a longterm pay2win which this game is said to be so much better than.
This explanation of the loot system just feels like an excuse for something.
and actually it pisses me off to see that you want a system where players also fight amongst players, but this doesn't cut it, since when you're in a party, fellowship, and all other words describing a group of players FRIENDLY to eachother, you sholdn't just fuck eachothers characters up, becuase this actually may be the case when an awesome loot drops. As you can tell i'm pretty angry, due to i just lost a legendary where i myself hosted a map (friendly as i was) and before i put the map into the laboratoy i let the members nkow that maps goes to owner and loot to name. still i was ninja looted. ofc you'll say "then don't host maps" and to those who does i just say, right.. which brings me to another subject on why you cannot kick members and be rid of them for good.
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Posted byDallasStarz#0575on Mar 5, 2013, 11:54:03 AM
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Vooodu wrote:
But you are rewarded with exp. Thats the true reward in public games.
Besides, you can't ninja in this game. Thats my point of the post above.
Your personal opinion is not shared by the majority of the players.
You can repeat your talking points but you are not going to change the fact that the behavior of taking loot that is not allocated to you is called ninja’ing.
IGN: Wrathmar * Paulie * Client
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Posted bywrathmar#4456on Mar 5, 2013, 11:58:07 AM
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I suffer from laggs daily, and this does not please me at all. It saddens me, that you decide to come up with a system that fits melee's and non-laggers, I KNOW that you wrote that the time has been modified to fit ranged and laggers better, but this is far from enough. I don't know what you believe lagg is, but for me these timers are just a joke. why have timers at all when you want a system where you SHOULD (!?) try to fuck someone's loot up as much as you can. this creates a system where "Best computers win" which is like in a longterm pay2win which this game is said to be so much better than.
This explanation of the loot system just feels like an excuse for something.
and actually it pisses me off to see that you want a system where players also fight amongst players, but this doesn't cut it, since when you're in a party, fellowship, and all other words describing a group of players FRIENDLY to eachother, you sholdn't just fuck eachothers characters up, becuase this actually may be the case when an awesome loot drops. As you can tell i'm pretty angry, due to i just lost a legendary where i myself hosted a map (friendly as i was) and before i put the map into the laboratoy i let the members nkow that maps goes to owner and loot to name. still i was ninja looted. ofc you'll say "then don't host maps" and to those who does i just say, right.. which brings me to another subject on why you cannot kick members and be rid of them for good.
In fact stating the party that this a no ninja party it open the door to the griefers.. If you say no ninja someone will ninja for sure... The community is shrinking to its pure crowd... Griefers and fake/fail hardcore wannabes... Soon will be little to non existent mature players
Sad but true
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Posted bykillbilly#2346on Mar 5, 2013, 11:59:50 AM
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wrathmar wrote:
Your personal opinion is not shared by the majority of the players.
You can repeat your talking points but you are not going to change the fact that the behavior of taking loot that is not allocated to you is called ninja’ing.
Prove my personal opinion is not shared by the majoiry of the players and il stop posting in this thread :D.
Besides. Loot is not allocated in this game. Its just random timers doOoooood.
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Posted byVooodu#7002on Mar 5, 2013, 12:00:18 PM
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Vooodu wrote:
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gonzaw wrote:
I mean, it'd be like a bunch of mercenaries picking up everything they see, and then group together, see all the treasures they've got, and share it between them as they please.
This would make each party "closer" (you'd need to actually talk to people to determine who gets what :P ), and it basically solves the "ninja" problem.
But, there really isn't a ninja problem.
Yeah there is.
Just check every thread people complaining about ninjas.
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Its all mental. Fighting monsters and ransacking random drops off the ground is the whole point of the loot system.
It is if you play solo
Not if you play in a party.
If it was, then why not play solo then?
A party system that makes you want to play solo is not really that good at its job
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Posted bygonzaw#3022on Mar 5, 2013, 12:03:31 PM
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MrH wrote:
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Vooodu wrote:
Try not to think of loot for a second. LOOT is the least important thing here.
Huh? Loot is the single most important thing in an aRPG. Improving your character is the number one goal, and that's done via gear.
...Not its not. Exp is. Exp is the goal loot is the bonus.
Loot is gained by magic finding either alone or with friends with actual MF builds.
EXP is the only goal of public games.
Im not really dabating this point. Im telling you how i see it. This is the reason I understand the loot system and really don't give a rats ass abot loot in public game.
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Posted byVooodu#7002on Mar 5, 2013, 12:03:57 PM
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Vooodu wrote:
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wrathmar wrote:
Your personal opinion is not shared by the majority of the players.
You can repeat your talking points but you are not going to change the fact that the behavior of taking loot that is not allocated to you is called ninja’ing.
Prove my personal opinion is not shared by the majoiry of the players and il stop posting in this thread :D.
Besides. Loot is not allocated in this game. Its just random timers doOoooood.
Pick a random range of 20 pages in this thread between 300-700. Exclude the frequent posters (Slayer, Striker, SMRD, Me..) Post the total number of players pro FFA and Anti-FFA along with your selected range.
In this game the agreed upon definition of ninja = taking loot that is not allocated to you. Your personal opinions on the mater does not change the agreed upon definition of the behavior.
IGN: Wrathmar * Paulie * Client
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Posted bywrathmar#4456on Mar 5, 2013, 12:05:21 PM
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